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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
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  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  Another dolt who thinks he can read personalities from discussion Boards, Lord save us. For your information, I am not offended at all. I am merely suggesting that you dishonest and hoping that you might prove me wrong. ;)

  If you were in front of me I don't know if I would want to punch you in the face or pat you on the back. You CAN read personality to a point on a discussion board. You demonstrated as much when you posted recently on the RR "tattoo boy" debacle. You showed more sense there than I would have. You must be able to tell by now that I truly relish debating you. I hope you take that as a compliment. ;-)

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  God and Evolution

  by BurnTheShips in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the second half of the nineteenth century, it became common to speak of a war between science and religion.

  but over the course of the twentieth century, that hostility gradually subsided.

  science should not try to become religion, nor should religion seek to take the place of science.

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  Atheism is based upon a materialist philosophy, which holds that nothing exists but natural phenomena. There are no supernatural forces or entities, nor can there be any. Nature simply exists.

  http://daphne.palomar.edu/mlane/ATHEIST/atheist_philosophy.htm

  I really don't feel like a linkwar. So I'll leave it there.

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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips

  2) Is a person who has faith in a God that you do not believe in, say for example Siva, practicing a form of self-deception?

  Yes--up to a point.

  So am I.

  So are you.

  Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips

  You are too easily offended HS.

  Instead of looking down on me so much try looking up for a change. Maybe you'll see God.

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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips
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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips

  I think the diffence between you and I is that I know what words mean and you do not.

  Well, I humbly petition your indulgence sir. Once I know everything, I may begin to aspire to belong to the atheist ranks as your own lofty self does.

  I am calling you a liar and ask for you to present what evidence you have for your bolded statement. I know that evidence is a word that means many things to religionists like yourself, apart or course from its true meaning, but I am calling you on this now.

  The spanking thread.

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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  Would you characterize yourself as having faith in God or faith in the concept of God?

  I guess both?

  Go swallow your tail Nvrgnbk.
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  God and Evolution

  by BurnTheShips in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the second half of the nineteenth century, it became common to speak of a war between science and religion.

  but over the course of the twentieth century, that hostility gradually subsided.

  science should not try to become religion, nor should religion seek to take the place of science.

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  You're right Burn. It's not a philosophy or worldview.

  Dude, your brain is stuck.

  Go wiki "Atheism".

  First. Damned. Sentence.

  Atheism, as a philosophical view, is the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods [1] or rejects theism. [2]
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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips

  Couldn't you observe how he is with you and decide based on that?

  Sounds to me like you are putting faith in your own senses Sero. are you sure they are not deceiving you? How could you prove it?

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  Self Deceit and Faith.

  by hillary_step in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread is inspired by a comment made on another thread, but i thought it would make an interesting discussion.. self deceit is described as a "misconception that is favorable to the person who holds it".

  my premise is that faith is a form of self-deceit - lying to oneself.. so, i would ask of the "faithful" the following questions and would request that they be read carefully to ensure no that there is no misunderstanding of purpose.. 1) in what way is faith not self-deception?.

  2) is a person who has faith in a god that you do not believe in, say for example siva, practicing a form of self-deception?.

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  BurnTheShips

  Yep, arguably is the key word, bro. Detective work is as much (or perhaps more) art, than it is science. Archaeology and evolution lean very heavily on such detective work. Time will eventually indisputably prove what is true and what is mistaken.

  Does that make you a skeptic? Lets throw a party! Woot!

  Question everything BA.

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