i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
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i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
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Thanks for trying to help me back when this thread was active.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
"Number one, if you think disfellowshipping is scriptural and right, why not go into the back room with a few elders and fess up to them that you have been not only reading but actively participating in an apostate site? This after the convention in which all were to swear that they would not go to "chat rooms" such as this? You have been a BAD BOY!!!! You may be able to find out for yourself how loving an arrangement of disfellowshipping is!!!"
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is why we need regular reminders. We all have a tendency to forget.
Farewell everyone.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
I have to take sides with Jehovah on this one, friend. I hope one day you'll understand why.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
Hi Lola,
You're not worthy of death, sweetie.
You're just no longer conducive to those that are trying to get the work done. That's the choice you made and you'll have to suffer for it. Not everyone can handle the pressures that are bound to get worse. but I can assure you, it's gonna be worse for the ones outside of the arrangement.
This isn't a case of you wandering away, dear. This is a blatant move on your part to defect from the work. That's entirely your decision.
If you told Jesus you no longer wanted to be his disciple, what would you expect him to say or do?
(Matthew 12:30) . . .He that is not on my side is against me, and he that does not gather with me scatters.
It only gets harder the longer you are away dear. It won't get any better. The pain you're feeling gets worse and worse. Of course you'll have to learn that on your own.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
You see, plmkrzy, your words themselves suggest you are in disagreement with the WTS. Is it your smoking that has you marked until this day or is it your blatant attempts to turn others to your side (divide) and away from the WTS, refusing to give up the unclean thing (smoking) that has you marked?
The act of smoking in itself displays a blatant disregard for neighbors' health and personal holiness (cleanness). What would one trying to maintain godly conduct have to do with associating with you?
I am quite thankful I don't have to smell cigarettes in the Kingdom Hall, considering I know how hard it is to give them up. Yet, it can be done if a person wants to be made clean again.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
Plmkrzy,
I'll reply to your first thoughts before the post skewed.
Confirmed drunkards don't go to Kingdom Halls. Confirmed drunkards are in the clubs goggling teenie boppers having a fun night out with the gals.
Recovering alcoholics trying to get better humbly go back to Kingdom Halls. The key word is "humbly".
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
I was referring to this:
" Regarding disowning Christ. Is this not a betrayal?"
Judas himself was. He disowned and betrayed Christ. But Peter disowned him only. There's a difference.
You can leave Jehovah's organization or deny association with it. Yet, when you turn against it, that's betrayal.
i wondered, since the jws claim that jesus is their teacher, what evidence do they have of jesus shunning "bad associations"?
it seems to me, from reading the bible, that the religious people of his day really gave him a hard time, because he actually spent the majority of his time with "bad associates", rather than shunning them.
thomas, though he followed jesus, wasn't totally convinced.
" You declared that taking poisons in to the body is an unforgivable sin (by declaring that there is no such thing as a smoking Christian). "
I never said anything like that at all. There is only one unforgivable sin and you and I both know that.
You're interpolating the thought because I said there is no such thing as a smoking Christian.
Many of those smoking will pay for their sins at death as will everyone. In order be one of Jehovah's Witnesses in 2006, however, one must renounce smoking as a disgusting practice that not only kills, but it stinks and makes others stink. It clearly shows a blatant lack of love for one's neighbor.
Even man's laws realize what I'm saying as truthful.
If you're so much for smoking, why don't you go to a kindergarten class and pass out cigarettes to the children and teach them how to ignite them?
