Posts by digderidoo

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Was my entire life fake?

by BonaFide in

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friends

so i start thinking about all my "privileges.

" i went to mts, took 600 pages of notes, went to my assignment, i am still serving under the mts program.

for a few years until my circumstances changed.

You have done well it telling that sister what you really believe. Just stick around it sounds as though you are coming to terms with what the organisation has done to you. It's hard and it's a long journey.

But for me, after learning and scrutinising everything i have held dear i cannot go back to what is essentially a fake way of living.

In answer to your question though, was my entire life a fake?

I would say that i am now a product of my past (psychobabel i know). But living that way of life has made me the person i am today, so i have no regrets about that life. Essentially the whole of life for me is a learning experience. It will take time to come to terms with the JW life but stick around, we've all been there.

Paul

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~ Just found out that my dad has died ~

by FlyingHighNow in

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friends

my jw brother in law is one the phone with me right now.

when it rains it pours when it comes to sorrow.

digderidoo

So sorry to hear your news FHN

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

Good points so far, thanks.

I'm off to bed in a bit so will check in tomorrow.

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

What year was that printed bennyk? It looks a good one.

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

Thanks for all the references so far, i will use some.

I have come with many references as to how they viewed 1914 beforehand. But the crux for him is they still said the "the end of the gentile times" would happen, so it's still a prediction. I don't see the logic myself if all they have done is change the meaning. I will answer him but i ain't going to do it till tomorrow.

It's sort of made me realise that you can't argue with a JW, but at the same time there are others listening in. It aint a JW site, it's a bible discussion one with a JW section, so it attracts all who are interested in the bible.

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

Thanks blondie i'll use that. That is a WT publication isn't it?

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

I thought the end began in 1874 according to Russell.

Russell did say later that 1914 would be "the end of the gentile times". But what i am failing to get through to him is how the meaning they had for it at the time meant that 1914 wasn't a prediction. How can it be a prediction when they decided to change the meaning of the term?

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

If anyone wants to chip in a comment to him they are more than welcome. He is one of those JW's who has to get the last word in, but there are others on the site i am getting through to.

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

Are there any others? My knowledge of where scripture is has faded.

Paul

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The end of the gentile times....

by digderidoo in

i have been having a serious dicussion on another site with a jw.

so far i think i have got my point across regarding 1914 and how the date wasn't actually predicted.

whereas he has come back and said that they did in fact predict "the end of the gentile times".. to a point he is right, russell and his associates did say this.

digderidoo

Double post