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  ANOTHER 200 Scientists Document Global Climate Change - Yo Deniers!

  by Seeker4 in

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  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/science/earth/07climate.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin.

  another international slate of scientists have released their findings regarding global climate change and human's effect on that (see the above link).. after the last major study released by several hundred scientists a few months ago, it does seem there is a serious concensus here among the leading thinkers and scientists on this issue.

  i know i've banged heads with a few who disagree with this, but it does seem as though that handful of folks who disagree with the science are looking more and more like deniers, as in holocaust deniers, moon landing deniers, etc.. in other words, out there on the lunatic fringe.. so, do you folks think it might be time to reconsider?.

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  rassillon

  dilaceratus wrote

  Rassillon : "I will see your 200 and raise you 17,000."

  Oh, for crap's sake-- doesn't anybody even try to find out whether their counter-arguments aren't fraudulent?

  From Sourcewatch:

  Oh, for crap's sake - Do you not know what a wiki is?

  Who wrote the article which you cite?

  Do they have an agenda?

  Are all the facts correct?

  Did you research and find out whether your counter-counter argument isn't fradulent?

  Or did you just post it cause it agrees with how you feel?

  Since it agrees with you, you don't have to check, right?

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  Ok dude, I think you are taking this a little too seriously.

  First I don't think you addressed the humor of my post and that is unexcusable!

  Fact is that ANYTHING you find on the internet will have flaws, I take everything with a grain of salt.

  Fact WIKIs are more prone to flaws, they are just one step up from blogs.

  Fact if human induced global warming was proveable it would have been done, it has not.

  You people are so high up on your OPINION that you think you are the only ones who are right.

  Moderation is where it's at.

  In emergency situations do you want someone running around yelling "OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD!" ?

  No you don't, calm heads are better, such as the time when my brother saved a guys life who was in a car accident.

  When other people who witnessed the car accident were freaking out, he set there and held a guys face together so the guy could breath until the ambulance arrived. This is a person who can't stand the sight of blood.

  There is as of yet no conclusive proof that global warming is anything more than the natural cycle of geological/atmospheric/solar events which have happened several times in this planets history.

  Besides I don't see any of these people who preach GW to be changing their lifestyle and living in mud huts or flying electric jets arround....Guess they don't think it is that urgent after all.

  You know what you could do to help, stop using a computer, every post you make you are killing the planet.

  If you reply to this post it means you don't care about the planet.

  If everyone buys into your theory and say they are successful in cutting back the things that you "believe" are responsible for GW and you are wrong and GW continues that is time wasted in figuring out what changes need to be made to live on a warmer earth.

  Be a little balanced dude.

  -r
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  Are you a "Leader" or a "Follower"?

  by JH in

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  i'm a "loner", so no one is following me, and i'm not following anyone.. maybe i tend slightly towards being a follower, but it better be worth my time, or i'll be back to a loner once more.

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  Leader, cause I can't get lost that way.
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  ANOTHER 200 Scientists Document Global Climate Change - Yo Deniers!

  by Seeker4 in

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  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/science/earth/07climate.html?_r=1&th&emc=th&oref=slogin.

  another international slate of scientists have released their findings regarding global climate change and human's effect on that (see the above link).. after the last major study released by several hundred scientists a few months ago, it does seem there is a serious concensus here among the leading thinkers and scientists on this issue.

  i know i've banged heads with a few who disagree with this, but it does seem as though that handful of folks who disagree with the science are looking more and more like deniers, as in holocaust deniers, moon landing deniers, etc.. in other words, out there on the lunatic fringe.. so, do you folks think it might be time to reconsider?.

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  rassillon

  I will see your 200 and raise you 17,000.

  http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p37.htm

  Global Warming Petition

  We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

  There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

  http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p357.htm

  During the past several years, more than 17,100 basic and applied American scientists, two-thirds with advanced degrees, have signed the Global Warming Petition.

  Signers of this petition so far include 2,660 physicists, geophysicists, climatologists, meteorologists, oceanographers, and environmental scientists (select this link for a listing of these individuals) who are especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide on the Earth's atmosphere and climate.

  Signers of this petition also include 5,017 scientists whose fields of specialization in chemistry, biochemistry, biology, and other life sciences (select this link for a listing of these individuals) make them especially well qualified to evaluate the effects of carbon dioxide upon the Earth's plant and animal life.

  Nearly all of the initial 17,100 scientist signers have technical training suitable for the evaluation of the relevant research data, and many are trained in related fields. In addition to these 17,100, approximately 2,400 individuals have signed the petition who are trained in fields other than science or whose field of specialization was not specified on their returned petition.

  Of the 19,700 signatures that the project has received in total so far, 17,800 have been independently verified and the other 1,900 have not yet been independently verified. Of those signers holding the degree of PhD, 95% have now been independently verified. One name that was sent in by enviro pranksters, Geri Halliwell, PhD, has been eliminated. Several names, such as Perry Mason and Robert Byrd are still on the list even though enviro press reports have ridiculed their identity with the names of famous personalities. They are actual signers. Perry Mason, for example, is a PhD Chemist.

  The costs of this petition project have been paid entirely by private donations. No industrial funding or money from sources within the coal, oil, natural gas or related industries has been utilized. The petition's organizers, who include some faculty members and staff of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, do not otherwise receive funds from such sources. The Institute itself has no such funding. Also, no funds of tax-exempt organizations have been used for this project.

  The signatures and the text of the petition stand alone and speak for themselves. These scientists have signed this specific document. They are not associated with any particular organization. Their signatures represent a strong statement about this important issue by many of the best scientific minds in the United States.

  This project is titled "Petition Project" and uses a mailing address of its own because the organizers desired an independent, individual opinion from each scientist based on the scientific issues involved - without any implied endorsements of individuals, groups, or institutions.

  The remainder of the initial signers and all new signers will be added to these lists as data entry is completed.
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  Had The Big Chat with my wife...

  by besty in

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  after being a long time fader and lurking here for a few years i finally had the courage to speak to my wife the other day

  she was complaining about how we never get invited back to other jw's houses despite being fairly hospitable ourselves and how she's made some new worldly friends that werre non-judgemental and just nice people.

  she also mentioned her mum (also jw but weak - split up from her jw husband) was struggling with the routine and had lots of nice friends out of the kh.

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  rassillon

  Hey, all that time as a witness proved helpful.....you knew the right time to strike, when she was down!!! Yeah!!

  Happy for you, I wish I could have had the same with my wife. :( oh well, you never know.

  -r
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  A little help from you bible brainiacs ;)

  by rassillon in

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  i wanted to throw this out there just to make sure i got my facts straight.

  i have been researching this but i am still trying to weed out those thoughts planted during a life as a jw.

  i will just ask the questions and not cloud with my own view but would like the input from you guys....girls too!

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  rassillon

  I wanted to throw this out there just to make sure I got my facts straight. I have been researching this but I am still trying to weed out those thoughts planted during a life as a JW. I will just ask the questions and not cloud with my own view but would like the input from you guys....girls too! SCRIPTURALLY.....What is the "Good News" that is to be preached? SCRIPTURALLY.....Is there any support for including a message of warning or destruction? Thanks for your help.... On a side note, I don't know how some of you brainiacs use a computer, I would have thought that when you start thinking your head would create so much static electricity that it would burn out the motherboard? LOL....I know it is corny but I just had to write down the image I had in my head. Thanks -r
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  cant wait for Blondie's WT Review post

  by Omegaman in

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  long time reader, first time poster.

  just to let you know blondie i look forward to your wt review every week.

  i get excited when i see it posted and cant wait to read.. p.s : cant wait for this weeks .

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  rassillon

  I second that, I always enjoy it as well. 2 thumbs up for blondie!
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  Inspired? Spirit Guided?

  by unique1 in

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  my fathers arguement is always that the fds is not inspired so their humanity causes them to get things wrong.

  they are merely spirit directed.

  i realized a main flaw in this arguement last night.

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  u1, Yeah, this is a really irritating thing to try to discuss with witnesses, they will insist that there is a difference but can't explain it. I have asked what the difference is and they say that the bible writers were given the info directly, but today they are just guided by the spirit but men can make mistakes. I return then with... "How do we know then what is from God and what is just fanciful imaginative mistakes of men?" Yeah, that one they can't answer. They believe that God is directing them, so they MUST me right....it is the same reason a gambler will keep betting even though they are loosing. -r
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  Trinity?

  by BFD in

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  i am reading the bible for the first time.

  i was df'd in 1976 and lived my whole life thinking the jws have the truth and i just could not live up to the standard and was doomed to die at the big a without question.

  until i found jwd 31 years later.

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  rassillon

  Your argument is stupid.

  NO, Your argument is stupid.

  See my earlier post. Neither side can PROVE it one way or the other. That is a FACT.
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  How to paint the Mona Lisa using MS Paint

  by DanTheMan in

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  of all the "speed paint" videos that have been posted on youtube, this one is the most amazing imo:.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk2spl_z7zu.

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  rassillon

  music was better than the picture....

  no doubt that person has way more talent then I do.

  -r
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  More about my marriage...

  by ColdRedRain in

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  i've been married for 2 years and i should have been more open to the board.

  however, i'm getting a divorce on sunday, the same time i have to go back to the meetings with her.

  i'll update everybody on the status of my marriage.

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  rassillon

  Nobody gets a divorce on a Sunday......????

  I am having a difficult time in my marriage as well......My wife is a great person....just misguided.

  It is hard when you have a person you care about but they are blinded by the propaganda.