Quite.
The other facet of all of this is that if a person is truely sorry before god then why the need to explain your indescretion to men?
why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.
a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.
three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.
Quite.
The other facet of all of this is that if a person is truely sorry before god then why the need to explain your indescretion to men?
why can't people in jw congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?.
a girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature.
three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room.
Why can't people in JW congregations see just how utterly creepy this whole arrangement is?
A girl about 20 years old commits an indescretion of a sexual nature. Three middle aged/old men 'interview' her in a room. All alone. Asking the details of said indescretion.
I mean, what is the crime here? The girls fornication or the fact that three old men want to sit and listen to all the details of it?
I have heard that in some cases elders have been extreemly rude & have asked very personal questions.
Why don't JW's see how perverted this is?
How can any decent parent allow their child to be put through this?
i came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of jw doctrine.. http://jwreform.org/index.html.
who do these people think they are?
do they really believe that the wts will sit up and take notice of their objections?
I came across a website that presents decent argumentation against three main areas of JW doctrine.
http://jwreform.org/index.html
Who do these people think they are? Do they really believe that the WTS will sit up and take notice of their objections? Do they really imagine that the arrogant & stubborn members of the governing body will consider their petitions and effect change within the organisation?
As long as I have known this religion they have year by year tightened their grip of control over peoples lives. Even despite getting rid of one of the weekly meetings, the language used in WT publications gets more and more frighteningly controlling.
How can any single JW feel that the GB might one day relinquish control in areas like thought control & disfellowshiping?
I'd be interested to know if there has been any dialogue between the two parties other than "you're disfellowshiped."
Thoughts?
anonymous brother does it again!
(huge round of applause!!!
(regular) http://www.sendspace.com/file/nzjme3.
Wow. Eve is stunning there.
The look on her face as she takes it in her mouth..........
cult classic on a thread about funeral talks commented "i would always find myself thinking "how the hell do you know what ____ believed?
i can relate to that feeling.
i remember attending the bonham, texas special talk that was given at the new hall that had just been built (the old one was given to the congregation that had apostasized) and later there was a brief blurb in the kindom ministry that said "all in attendance were deeply touched at the stirring discourse delivered by brother albert schroeder of brooklyn.
Slightly different but I hated somehow feeling responsible for the comments/actions of JW's who were say paedophiles etc.
I somehow felt like I shared their guilt.
The sooner I realised most JW's were f***ing fruitloops & left made me feel much more of an individual. I didn't have to dread reading the newpaper to find an article about the blood issue or a deviant paedophile, as if their actions somehow reflected on me.
the comments were made by a militant jw pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.. at the time i was on the ministry with him.
as we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all!
each one on the road of futility".
The comments were made by a militant JW pioneer/elder/ms training school, kind of ass hole.
At the time I was on the ministry with him. As we walked by a swathe of students heading into university for the day he turned to me & said "look at them all! Each one on the road of futility"
I wasn't particularly keen on the comments. I wasn't that sort of JW.
The other day I drove past the same area & this idiots comments came to mind.
But think about it:
All those students will have graduated years ago. Some will be doctors, surgeons, lawyers, nurses etc.......
If JW asshole gets ill, he'd expect to be treated by the very same sort of people he slagged off for 'pursuing futility'. It's crazy when you stop & think about it, isn't it? How does asshole elder feel aout needing the assistance of a highly skillled & trained individual in his hour of need? If he were seriously ill, he would be crying out for someone in that position. Weeping like a baby for them to call on their expertise to take away the pain and make him better. It's just common sense is it not? The world we live in needs university graduates. It's as simple as that.
And that, my friends, in a nutshell, is why the Jehovah's Witnesses view of going to university is an absolute pile of stinking shit!
right now there is a documentary on the bbc about louis theroux' second visit to the infamous phelps family.
it's a follow up to a similar documentary four years ago.. a considerable number of members have left in the last few years while the cult has become even more extreme.
louis has just interviewed young woman who has got out and started nursing.
What can you say to that?
I watched the first one with my wife. I got the feeling that she was most uncomfortable watching it.
There is a good reason for that - they are strikingly like JW's, albeit more militant.
so i attended a funeral for a jw who passed away (non-"annointed) and i would have to state that although i have heard the standard funeral talk outline for dozens of funerals i've attended, i never really took the time to listen.
and my god, i was cringing.
the outline is essentially broken down like this:.
I have been to some awful ones & some really awful ones.
In all my time, I attended one JW funeral which spoke about the person for a prolonged period of time.
well this past weekend was pretty much as predicted, the demonstrations were probably the worst i have ever seen.
you know the ones i mentioned on a post last week where in the middle the participant has a sudden epiphany!
here is a sampling of just a few.. .
The PR about JW families being all loved up & happy is quite a laugh to me. I knew families where fights among elders/elders sons are common place.
JW's - The happiest people on earth?.................
well, im off to the circuit assembly tomorrow.
two days of sheer joy and missed sports!
!two days of the same twenty or so brothers giving talks(it's who you know so i am told) and demonstrations, reminding us of how much they enjoy god bothering people on a saturday.
Assemblies were shit. Made me miss watching my beloved football club & generally ruined my weekend.
Oh, and PS - watching all the ass kissing of the Edinburgh elders & jokeying for position? Do me a ****ing favour.