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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Here is what has been and still is my problem, this:

  "We have multiple lines of evidence all closing in on the fact that Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians"-Coded Logic

  That is not a true fact. I am not saying Trump is guilty OR innocent, but there are a lot of you (bohm, sir, spoletta, coded logic and more) who have concluded he is guilty based on supposed "EVIDENCE".

  If you have evidence of collusion coded as you say you do, please give it to the media outlets and current three investigations. You have evidence you can have Trump impeached ASAP. The truth is there is no evidence yet. Maybe "evidence" doesn't mean what you think it does, I don't know.

  As of today they just announced there were 18 undisclosed communications with the Trump team and Russia during the campaign, but wait there is more, The people who described the contacts to Reuters said they had seen no evidence of wrongdoing or collusion between the campaign and Russia in the communications reviewed so far. That, that is where we are now.

  Again, that can all change, but you all act so high and mighty, and yet you keep calling evidence and fact things that simply are not. I don't care how much you dislike someone, they should be condemned based on facts and actual evidence. That's how things are supposed to work.

  I simply happen to agree with what Paul Ryan said(no bohm, I am not a Paul Ryan fan even though I agree with him and quote him so take a xana now, there is your trigger warning). “We can’t deal with speculation and innuendo. There is a lot of politics being played. Our job is to get the facts and be sober about doing that.”

  Its really as simple as that. There may be evidence and facts that will incriminate Trump, but lets have cool heads until we get there.
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Well, i didn't get it from him. There is lots of redundancy out there. And the principle of it is that obstruction is a big deal. That doesn't change it. I don't care who else put it up there, it's still Comey testifying regarding obstruction.
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Comey was building a case about Trump interfering with an ongoing FBI investigation.

  Then it wouldn't be leaked, it would have been more serious

  Comey was seeking to preserve the Russia Investigation and did not want to bias his agents.

  Same, doesn't matter, if it was an obstruction of justice, he would have had to have done something more serious about it, not wrote himself a memo that got leaked 3 months later

  Comey felt his words alone were not sufficient to bring charges against the President of the United States.

  Agreed

  Comey was considering rolling a Obstruction of Justice charge in with the Russian Investigation.

  Same as the above two answers, it would have been handled much differently. Also wouldn't leaking case material in an obstruction case put the leaker in a very dangerous position??

  BOHM I have no idea who you are talking about, the expert from the Comey testimony is all over the internet, chose whatever maniac you want to try and associate me with, I have no idea who you are talking about. If he tweeted about I am sure he is not the only one... idiot
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  I don't think so, he could have just stopped there, at not in my experience, but he elaborated.

  Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.

  IF the Memo exists, and IF Comey really did think it was a big deal, he has boxed himself in for not doing anything about it.

  Do you think this part is confined to the DOJ?

  But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal.

  There are only two outcomes, 1. it doesn't exist, or 2. it does, and Comey lied and didn't do anything about until after he got fired. Just think about it.

  It will be interesting to hear him testify and to see the memo. I feel the actual tone of the supposed leak still doesn't amount to "intent", but the damage may be done either way and Trump may be in hot water.

  I could see Comey testifying, saying it happened, but he did not take it as Trump trying to interfere. then we are back at square one and all this hype was for nothing.
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Coded Logic, I can debate with you, and others, but some I really don't feel like its a debate, so I don't care about debate rules if someone is an idiot, I'd like to let them know lol. Like BOHM and Spoletta

  But I digress, the person at biggest risk of getting screwed here is Comey, and I actually think an impeachment could cause more problems in this country at this moment than Trump currently is causing in all honesty.
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Can you provide the quote please?

  Thanks

  

  Comey is potentially the most at risk
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  1. If the memo doesn't exist, the source lied
  2. If it does exist Comey lied UNDER OATH

  Which one do you spaz's want most? lol

  Also all you armchair lawyers here, what about this

  Under the law, Comey is required to immediately inform the Department of Justice of any attempt to obstruct justice by any person, even the President of the United States. Failure to do so would result in criminal charges against Comey. (18 USC 4 and 28 USC 1361) He would also, upon sufficient proof, lose his license to practice law.

  Obstruction requires what’s called “specific intent” to interfere with a criminal case. Now I personally (not because I think Trump is such a great guy) don't think you could legally establish he did this, but hey that's just me. Trump's vague language doesn't amount to him sliding a briefcase of money across a table and saying "make this go away".
  
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  Comey said under oath that Trump did not ask him to halt any investigation - 5/8/17

  anyone remember that? no? selective memory?

  And you dumbasses can't keep comparing this to the treatment Killary got for Benghazi, comey did not put her under oath, and there is ZERO transcript of her interview with Comey, not even a Memo lol. Idiots
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  The only thing ironic is your militant support of this man. You are just like all delusional JWs, who defend the organization through thick and thin, despite the obvious flaws,

  Not really, I have no problem saying what I feel is wrong with Trump, same with any politician. The cult-like fervor is a product of the hard left these days, I am not a republican, I don't belong to the trump party. It takes a lot more balls these days to tell everyone they are overreacting than to just go along with the noise. If he has done something worthy of impeachment or worse it will happen, I am just not going to join you and swaths of brainwashed idiots in accusing him of everything that comes along before the facts are known. Now, who is acting like a JW? Are you in or out? Did you vote?

  It's funny simply for defending an individual on an unfounded accusation I am the brainwashed one. Trump does stupid shit all the time, I can agree to that, a lot of it was this week. But as far as his guilt, like I already said, jumping to conclusion by you and all your trigger buddies has to lead to some people looking like jackasses (see below). I just choose to wait until all the facts are in. That doesn't make him innocent, it just makes me rational. I can be outraged too, I will just save it for more compelte evidence if you don't mind

  Lets not follow the crowd and get ahead of ourselves lest we end up looking like idiots

  
  
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  Memo shows Trump tried to end investigation in Feb.

  by Coded Logic in

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  washington — president trump asked the f.b.i.

  director, james b. comey, to shut down the federal investigation into mr. trump’s former national security adviser, michael t. flynn, in an oval office meeting in february, according to a memo mr. comey wrote shortly after the meeting.. “i hope you can let this go,” the president told mr. comey, according to the memo.. the existence of mr. trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the justice department and f.b.i.

  investigation into links between mr. trump’s associates and russia.. mr. comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after mr. flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo.

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  freemindfade

  Spoletta, I won't apologize for being patriotic about the certain things. I am an American citizen, I know several that have served and sacrificed a great deal. It matters to me so f-ck off! Whether it's Obama or Trump or whoever is president, as long as the principles of our constitution are still intact I do believe in the exceptionalism of this country. I have experienced some of the nonsense that comes with America, paying too much for school and healthcare, but I also believe as Obama said this country zigs and zags but it's always going forward. So yes, I give a damn about American lives lost, ESPECIALLY of those fighting to protect our values and freedoms. Sorry there is no middle finger emoji on here, you'll just have to accept the thumbs down