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why disfellowshipped?

by knothead34 in

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friends

as a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.

thanks.

Well I am sorry if some of what I said may have been a little confuseing. Although when I talked about the bitterness I am pretty sure I said some people. I cannot pretend that I know all the reason's why a person gets disfellowshipped. Meaning I do not always know or even want to know what an individual has done. I do know that sometimes it is what a person commits can have alot to do with the deciesion. If a sin was commited again does the hole congregation know about. What was this person position, are they an elder, pioneer, someone recongnized very highly. We are all imperfect and we all make mistakes everyday, in other words we sin everyday. But we have to keep picking ourselves up rely on Jehovah that he will help us. So as I said before the Elders and everybody here on earth are imperfect, but the Elders with the right motives, while no one can accurately judge another's motives, Jehovah is making an estimate of hearts, Proverbs 24:12. So yes it is possible for ones in the congregation to make mistakes includeing Elders. But my trust really does rely on Jehovah not Man. The Elders are there for spiritual encouragment, but in reality thats also to all of are Jobs. So real love for Jehovah will motivate us to keep on TRUSTING IN HIM> HE WILL MAKE THE PATHS STRIAGHT.

As far as other viewpoints, I had plenty of viewpoints growing up, thats not to say that I don't listen to someone else. I mean that is part of are Job to. When we go door to door the main message is not to condem anyone but to help them know the name of GOD, JEHOVAH, and his son Jesus. And with knowing them then teaching what there pourpose is. The main theme of the bible is to Teach about GODS KINGDOM. Jehovah wants all to attain everlasting life and my love a people I want the same. I am not a perfect person either but I don't belive that there are hidden messages in the bible trying to confuse everybody. See all my questions that I had for the different Pastors Father's and so on could not answer any of my question's I had. I never understood why before, but I do now. They never took me to the Bible.

As far as the next question I can't answer now because I have to go to work. And I want to give you an honest heartfelt answer. thanks.

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why disfellowshipped?

by knothead34 in

jw
friends

as a new unbaptized publisher, i would really like to know why some of you were disfellowshipped if you don't mind sharing your stories.

thanks.

smartone

It seems that the answer your getting from some of these people is not what you asked. It is sad to say that sometimes when an individual gets disfellowshped they get very bitter. The grounds for being disfellowship is very clear in the Bible. It is not hard to figure that out. Now I have read some dishearting things like the abuse of someones child. I did not grow up in the truth and I myself is one of the abused. You talk about someone getting away with it, this Man who came in our lives that my own Mother brought in got away with his just about everything he did. Now as I got older I had to protect myself and thats what I did. I finally met one of Jehovahs witness and I must say when they met me I was a mess. It was the first time people took interest in me by teaching me to take care of my self and relying on God for support. When we all study the scriptures we all have to do it for ourself. Sad to say some have wrong motives and want something different. I basically wanted the truth and thats what I believe I found. We see that in times that what was taught along time ago or the understanding of the brothers might not have been exactly right. But we also see in those cases that when there is new light shed the brothers adjust and make corrections. I fully believe that there is nothing wrong with that. We are in perfect and we make mistakes but we have to understand that if we pray for Jehovah's direction and sprit that the truth will always prevail. There is always someone out there who is going to try and bring controversy, And we know who the first being is that brings that controversy. Satan the Devil. So as regards to what some of the friends have suffered maybe something was not exactly handle the best in the congregation by the Elders or maybe even some of the friends. We never want to give up on whats most important and that is Jehovah. Take the time and look up this scripture 1 Corinthians 10:31, and Romans 12:11. We also have to remmember that even though these Elders are to lead us and help us in our faith we always have to remmember that they are just imperfect men and can fall and make mistakes, and for that we cannot become as 1 Cor 7:23 says we must not become slaves of men. So for the few that may feel they have been wronged in the Congregation always take your load to Jehovah and as Proverbs 3: 5,6 says trust in Jehovah with all your heart, and do not lean apon your own understanding. I believe that Disfellowshipping is a nesassary thing and it is according to the Bible. But of couarse as I have learned that it is not always a case if you sin against Jehovah or someone in the Congregation if a person is truly repentant than surely would it not be the loveing thing to forgive. So that is why alot of times when an individual does something wrong the Elders are not going to gossip about the details of what that person did. Our minds because of this world does not always see the good in people so why feed the fire. So what might seem a cover up to you might really be a protection. Now with the molestor well I have a different feeling about that and if the police are involved then that could never be hidden the Elders might not elaborate on it but you will see that individuals picture in the sex offenders. So protect your children no matter who they are because in this imperfect world we will never no all the true motives of men. But we will always know the rue motives of Jehovah. Take care hope this helps