I agree but how can explain Paul's command to not even eat with wicked men? My friend keeps telling me that obviously those older one in the congregation were making judgements as to who was wicked according to their works.
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karola
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Need for an org and need to be judged by one's works
by karola ini need some help reaching a friend regarding the faults of the society and the control they have over us.
i keep stressing that the nt insists that salvation is by faith and not by works and that those under works of law are in fact under a curse.
(see gal 3:10-11 and romans 3:20-24).
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Need for an org and need to be judged by one's works
by karola ini need some help reaching a friend regarding the faults of the society and the control they have over us.
i keep stressing that the nt insists that salvation is by faith and not by works and that those under works of law are in fact under a curse.
(see gal 3:10-11 and romans 3:20-24).
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karola
Hi,
I need some help reaching a friend regarding the faults of the Society and the control they have over us. I keep stressing that the NT insists that salvation is by faith and not by works and that those under works of law are in fact under a curse. (See Gal 3:10-11 and Romans 3:20-24)
Romans Chapter 3
20 Therefore by works of law no flesh will be declared righteous before him, for by law is the accurate knowledge of sin.
21 But now apart from law God’s righteousness has been made manifest, as it is borne witness to by the Law and the Prophets; 22 yes, God’s righteousness through the faith in Jesus Christ, for all those having faith. For there is no distinction. 23 For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom [paid] by Christ Jesus.
When pointing to Scriptures such as these, he tells me the usual JW speech that in order show that we are faithful, it needs to be demonstrated in the works we do. He also points to the Scripture in 1 Cor 5:9-13, which is used to support disfellowshipping doctrine. And he says that someone has to keep the congregation clean. I try to point out that As imperfect humans, no one can judge one's relationship with God and even more tell us that we cannot gain salvation because of something that we did that accourding to the WT is against God's will. My efforts do not seem to reach him and I was wondering if anyone has any tips.
thanx