Posts by crawdad2

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Response to DATELINE

by RR in

here's a letter sent to dateline from a loyal jw:.

memo to dateline nbc.

may 29, 2002. i am writing in response to your segment last night on dateline nbc re pedophiles among jehovahs witnesses.. i have been one of jehovahs witnesses for the past 43 years.

if you personally know of a dozen brothers that were disfellowshipped for pedohile activitys,.....in your small circle of friends, doesn't that suggest to you that there is a HUGH problem in the jw organization?.....

if the elders in erica's case grossly mishandled the entire affair, why didn't the gov body fix it?........ the gov body was involved in that case from the beginning.

never again in a position of authority?........huh?...... the rapist in her case was an ELDER, or did it get that wrong?

why do you quote scriptures of what elders are supposed to be like?
any christian religion can quote the same scriptures!

the proof is in the pudding......she was raped, like many many others, who are afraid to come forward, and the local body of elders, with the gov body backing them up, pushed her out, and stood behind the rapist........all the way to court....... all the way to a dateling show.

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jws WILL turn in a pedo, .....if he's Catholic!

by biblexaminer in

dear brother elder, if my neighbor was molesting a child and i saw it, should i tell the police?

br.

elder: yes, absolutely.

crawdad2

bro elder:
i will arrange a committe meeting for you.
would tonight before the meeting be to soon?

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Corrupt congregations

by Insider in

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do corrupt congregations exist?

some feel they do.

others would categorically deny it.

crawdad2

what makes them corrupt?

here's my guess,........ the P.O. in every congregation gets and keeps the appointment he has by ignoring justice in the light of being completely loyal to the gov body.

when he recommends elders, he recommends ones who are completely loyal to him, ones who don't question him.

as a result, the body of elders in each cong is void of free thinking, and becomes a gestapo for each P.O.

it's according to how abusive the P.O. is then, because any elders who dare question him, are quickly removed as elder, to maintain "unity" on the body of elders.

some P.O.'s are less abusive than others.......but they must always maintain strict loyalty to the abusive secret policys of the gov body, and they dare not go against the gov body, or they will loose their position.

love never enters into the picture....

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jws WILL turn in a pedo, .....if he's Catholic!

by biblexaminer in

dear brother elder, if my neighbor was molesting a child and i saw it, should i tell the police?

br.

elder: yes, absolutely.

crawdad2

bro elder:

are you questioning the authority of god's visible organization?

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Shaking Hands with Death - part 2

by Amazing in

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shaking hands with death part 2: .

it was at this moment i knew it was over ... when the best people of modern medical science have done their best, and tell you they are sorry, but they did all they could do ... there is a certain final feeling, a jarring sense deep within that you have hit an immovable stone wall --- no way around it, no alternatives to contemplate, no side-stepping, no talking my way out, no escape hatch, no ace-in-the-hole, and no markers to call in ... yet, then .... what about god?

or is there an atheist in the foxhole?

crawdad2

hi amazing,

i take back everything i ever said about you, hahahaha.
you are a great writer, ........i can't wait for the next part!

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God's judgment on Brooklyn NY ;)

by LizardSnot in

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crawdad2

hey lizzard snot,

how come they are still smiling?.......is it cause the spell came off them?
sorta like when the wicked witch melted, and the guards quit chasing dorothy?

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THE BIND THE GOV BODY IS IN

by crawdad2 in

here's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.. to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.. the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up.

........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.. it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.. their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........at all cost!.....theocratic warfare!!!.

effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.. even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.. children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.

crawdad2

that's one of the things that woke me up.
i kept seeing lying haughty hypocrites being appointed to be in positions of authority...... while the P.O. claimed the holy spirit appointed them.
i saw wicked commitee meeting decisions, and the elders claimed they were made by holy spirit, when i knew they were wrong.

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THE BIND THE GOV BODY IS IN

by crawdad2 in

here's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.. to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.. the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up.

........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.. it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.. their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........at all cost!.....theocratic warfare!!!.

effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.. even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.. children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.

crawdad2

here's the bind the gov body is in.......these are just my opinions.

to please the gen public, and to maintain a "righteous look", the gov body has to assure everyone that pedophiles and rapists will be reported to the police.

the problem;.......if they are reported to the police, the media will pick it up. ........and there are so many jw pedophiles, and rape victims, it's not just a few isolated cases.......the victims will then be questioned, and the truth about how bad the situation really is, will come out publicly.... all the details of how the elders knew about it for years and years, but allowed the abuse to continue, will come out in the courtroom.
it will all be documented........ even the gov body's secret instructions to elders will become an issue, and they will be in deep trouble.

their solution;...... keep jw pedophiles, child abuse, and rape cases out of court........AT ALL COST!.....THEOCRATIC WARFARE!!!

effect on children and rape victims; .....even more so than before, children reporting that a parent is repeatedly molesting them, will be silenced at all cost....elders not going along with this arrangement will be deleted....cold hearted brothers, loyal to the gov body will replace them.

even cases where guilt is proven will be silenced, pushed under the carpet, made out to be no big deal, for fear it ends up in a courtroom.

children will be imiediatly handed back over to the parent molester, and the molester will be instructed to make sure this young child is silenced, before anyone hears about it, and it brings reproach on jehovahs organization.

just my opinion, ........ if you think i'm wrong, i would like to hear it, .....i'm afraid alot of children are going to start disapearing... they are walking talking evidence.

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Lofty & Judgemental?Are you on DAN FITZWATE...

by LFitzwater in

i brought this to the top of the board because i feel its getting lost and i want to have better access to respond.

my response is at the bottom.

this is a post i received on page 3 of child abuse under dan fitzwater exposed on dateline.... ("laurie, i can truly appreciate your feelings of digust for this man, and feeling as though he is not repentant.

crawdad2

hi l fitzwater,

i don't like anyone telling me i have to forgive someone who i consider devious, either.

i'll forgive them when i decide to.

focusing of forgiving the pedophile is just a side-step, on the part of the gov body.

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GB has dealt treacherously with Younger Anointed!

by IslandWoman in

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the younger anointed (those who came in after 1935) in the organization are treated by the gb as both a whore and a beloved wife.. the whore: for years they have published articles whose intent was to denigrate the younger anointed.

as a result many of these younger anointed ones have had to fight a spiritual uphill battle with their elders and circuit overseers because the watchtower paints them as falsely claiming spiritual union with the christ.. .

the beloved wife: yet, it is from this group of younger anointed that the gb has picked 5 members of the governing body!!

crawdad2

gee island woman,

what's wrong with the gov body spiritually killing all of their brothers?
the wicked kings of isreal and judah used to kill all their own brothers, when they inherited the throne........you know, to make sure none of them would try to claim rights to the throne.

you gotta keep the organization strong!