Response to DATELINE

by RR 7 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • RR
    RR

    Here's a letter sent to Dateline from a loyal JW:

    MEMO TO DATELINE NBC

    May 29, 2002

    I am writing in response to your segment last night on Dateline NBC re pedophiles among Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    I have been one of Jehovah’s Witnesses for the past 43 years. Over the years I have certainly come to appreciate that all kinds of people (including Jehovah’s Witnesses) are capable of doing all kinds of things -- including incredibly evil, hurtful things. Jehovah’s Witnesses are certainly not immune to evil -- no one is.

    But I must object to your “National Enquirer” approach to last nights subject in what I can only describe as a vicious smear against Witnesses.

    From what I have read in various newspaper accounts of the incident in Washington (Erica Rodriguez Garza), if those accounts are accurate as stated, those elders in the congregation in question in Washington grossly mishandled the entire affair from start to finish and showed extreme moral cowardice and a callous disregard and lack of empathy for the victim and her family. A prime obligation of any Witness elder anywhere in the world is to protect the congregation (especially young ones) -- protect them spiritually, emotionally, mentally -- and to keep the congregation clean. James 1:27 counsels us all that the only form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of God is “to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation and to keep oneself without spot from the world.” The elders in this situation (if, again, these reports are accurate) failed miserably to do any of these things. I feel terrible for Ms. Garza and her family -- no one should ever have to go through something this horrible.

    But for Mr. Bowen to make the statement that our organization is a “pedophile paradise” is an outrageous and completely unwarranted, unjustified defamation. And the allegation that perpetrators go unpunished is simply a lie. I am just ONE Witness, but over the years I have personally known of over a dozen former Witness brothers who were disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for child molestation. It cannot be overemphasized that even when a brother who has been disfellowshipped for child abuse of any sort is at some point later reinstated into the congregation, he CAN NEVER AGAIN HOLD ANY POSITION OF AUTHORITY WITHIN THE CONGREGATION. And tell me this -- what other religious organization in this country today, in our overly permissive, “anything goes” “alternative lifestyle” society -- what other organization disfellowships anyone for anything?!! All of America has been reading daily accounts since January of this year in the newspapers, relating accounts of Bishops and even Cardinals in the Catholic Church knowingly covering up for pedophile priests for 20 years and longer, not only not reporting them to the authorities, but transferring them from parish to parish and even promoting them!

    This policy of ours of keeping the congregations clean is binding worldwide, crossing all cultural, economic and cultural lines in the 235 countries where over 6 million Witnesses reside.

    I noticed that the Watchtower Society gave you a statement which you quoted, wherein it was noted that at times individual congregations fail to follow these established guidelines -- if and when they do, they will be held individually and collectively responsible and will be dealt with.

    I find it remarkable and puzzling, that out of all the hundreds of religions in this country, your staff would have singled out Jehovah’s Witnesses for this attack. You chose us -- by any comparison with other religious organizations in America, such a small, innocuous group -- with no history of enormous political/financial clout like the Roman Catholic Church or the Mormon Church - (maybe that is precisely why you chose us)? I can’t help but feel (as I am sure many others will) that this attack was precipitated, not by any sincere desire for truth but by a deeply hostile prejudice.

    NOTE: To insure privacy (Original author omitted by me)
    Ron Shipley

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    That's my story and I'm sticking to it! . http://www.food4jws.org/testimonies/rr144.htm

  • dungbeetle
    dungbeetle

    I don't give a rat's a** what Jw's think anymore. They can have their pathetic cult for the little tiny time they have left.

    1) So how were the elders 'dealt with' in Washington and California? Huuuuh?

    2) Dateline said right up front, this wasn't about the pedophiles. This was about the survivors and their supposed friends. JW's, both in the real world and on this board, do everything they can to divert attention FROM THE SURVIVORS.

    3)And teh comment about singling out JW's is wrong for two obvious reasons; they covered the Catholics and this wasn't about JW's...it was about WATCHTOWER and the SURVIVORS.

    People like this need to get their head out of their A*S and out of their Kingdom Halls for five minutes a day before they wake up one day and they are 80 years old and in diapers and eating with a straw and wondering where all their JW so-called FRIENDS ARE. While there's still TIME.

    3)

    BEFORE YOU TRY AND REMOVE THE STICK FROM MY ARSE, REMOVE THE TELEPHONE POLE FROM YOUR OWN ARSE.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Thanks RR for the quote

    I have personally known of over a dozen former Witness brothers who were disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for child molestation.
    Ooooh, twelve pedo's dfd, some reinstated, any reported to the authorities????? Hmmmmm Mr nice upstanding jw? Maybe this is why the program was needed. He has a blind spot big enough for a frieght train to pass through.

    SS

  • RedhorseWoman
    RedhorseWoman
    I have personally known of over a dozen former Witness brothers who were disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for child molestation.

    But he doesn't mention when, or if, these people were reinstated because they were "repentent". And what about their victims? Did the elders assist the victims and their parents in reporting these criminal acts?

    Also, were these disfellowshippings done because the "brothers" confessed, or did the elders violate the "two-witness" rule and believe the victim?

  • LB
    LB

    Yep all 12 got DFed and if any of the 12 wanted to be reinstated they were. And today they can go door to door and continue as though nothing ever happened to them.

    But the children are forever changed.


    Never Squat With Yer Spurs On

  • gumby
    gumby

    You know what would be nice to post, to answer all of these blind dubs questions:

    B.O.E. letters that tell the elders what to do with those who make trouble for an alledged pedophile after there is no proof found by the brothers, and no confession.

    Can someone post this?

  • crawdad2
    crawdad2

    if you personally know of a dozen brothers that were disfellowshipped for pedohile activitys,.....in your small circle of friends, doesn't that suggest to you that there is a HUGH problem in the jw organization?.....

    if the elders in erica's case grossly mishandled the entire affair, why didn't the gov body fix it?........ the gov body was involved in that case from the beginning.

    never again in a position of authority?........huh?...... the rapist in her case was an ELDER, or did it get that wrong?

    why do you quote scriptures of what elders are supposed to be like?
    any christian religion can quote the same scriptures!

    the proof is in the pudding......she was raped, like many many others, who are afraid to come forward, and the local body of elders, with the gov body backing them up, pushed her out, and stood behind the rapist........all the way to court....... all the way to a dateling show.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    The letter speaks for itself.This person has a noodle for a brain.Pediphiles cannot hold position in the congragation.Whoop-dee-do,I`ll bet that hurts.Not only do they let the bastard back,now he`s got more time on his hands to molest kids.Yep,those JW`s got everything figured out.Won`t things be just peachy,if they ever get control of the world.Thank god their too stupid...OUTLAW

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