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  Questions From Readers Nov 15th 2009

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the latest flip-flop (allbeit a minor one.).

  the "wise instruction" (as described by the society) given is that sisters now have to wear head coverings when interpreting sign language public talks.. differs from the previous instructions that sisters didn't need to do so.. .

  w02 7/15p.27 questions from readers.

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  Anxious to see a scan of the magazine and to read this QFR.
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  A Couple of Interesting Analyses of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently i received these files from others and thought i'd pass them on.. the first is a book simply entitled jehovah's witnesses by maurice barnett which contains both an historical and theological analysis.

  it's about 26 mb and can be downloaded from this filesharing site:.

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=ffc24ebf8989755c7551557cede5988c.

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  You're welcome, jaydee! Glad to see you again!
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  A Couple of Interesting Analyses of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently i received these files from others and thought i'd pass them on.. the first is a book simply entitled jehovah's witnesses by maurice barnett which contains both an historical and theological analysis.

  it's about 26 mb and can be downloaded from this filesharing site:.

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=ffc24ebf8989755c7551557cede5988c.

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  cabasilas

  Thanks, yesidid, cadelin and TD!
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  Titus

  by PSacramento in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  titus is part of what is reffered to as the "pastoral epistles" (1and 2 timothy and titus) and was written probably in the second century ( 100-150 ad) and, in the opinion of most scholars, not by paul but in "paul's name.. like the letters to timothy, titus may have been an original letter dictated by paul that had been "altered" to asnwer the questions and different doctrine views that wer ebeing voiced as paul's, at the time.. many scholars look at the differences in vocabulary, literary style, the situation of the apostle, and the theological charateristisc that seem to be moving towards the emerging "catholicisim", to base their view that paul did not write ( at least not completely) the pastoral epistles in they way they have been handed down.. that said, back to titus that has some interesting points that i would like to discuss:.

  the writer says that god is our saviour, 1:3, and jesus is our saviour, 1:4 and goes one to repeat this in 3:4 ( god is saviour) and 3:6 ( jesus is saviour), the writer also adds the (controversial?

  ) passage of 2:13 - waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great god and saviour jesus christ (esv).. the writer seems to be holding fast to that god and jesus are/is our saviour, something that paul himself says in the contecxt of jesus is our saviour, for our salvation is through him, to god, but in a repetive mode, the writer seems to be either, contridicting himself or saying that both are or, in the early trinity sense perhaps, god and jesus are (singular) our saviour, they are one.. verse 2:13 can be interprested in two was, typically, that jesus is god and saviour or that the writer is reffereing to god and jesus.. the first view is typically trinitarian, the second is not (obviously) but the second interpretation has verse 14 to deal with:.

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  Verse 14 is important here in understanding verse 13.

  There's a great chart in this article: "Is Jesus Christ Our Great God?" which shows how the expressions in verse 14 are taken directly from the Septuagint. In the Septuagint, they are used of Jehovah, but the writer of Titus applies them to Christ:

  http://www.archive.org/details/AwaitAnti-jehovahsWitnessTract
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  A Couple of Interesting Analyses of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently i received these files from others and thought i'd pass them on.. the first is a book simply entitled jehovah's witnesses by maurice barnett which contains both an historical and theological analysis.

  it's about 26 mb and can be downloaded from this filesharing site:.

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=ffc24ebf8989755c7551557cede5988c.

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  You're welcome, Atlantis and Nevada!

  The one by Rogerson has been particularly underappreciated due to its being out of print for so long. Penton, in Apocalypse Delayed gives it high marks.
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  Dating in the Real World...

  by darkl1ght3r in

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  2. experiences

  ...or, love stinks.

  i am so unprepared for this.

  i feel like a kid just walking into willy wonka's chocolate factory.

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  Benjamin, you've got a great writing style! Keep them coming!!
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  A Couple of Interesting Analyses of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently i received these files from others and thought i'd pass them on.. the first is a book simply entitled jehovah's witnesses by maurice barnett which contains both an historical and theological analysis.

  it's about 26 mb and can be downloaded from this filesharing site:.

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=ffc24ebf8989755c7551557cede5988c.

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  cabasilas

  Recently I received these files from others and thought I'd pass them on.

  The first is a book simply entitled Jehovah's Witnesses by Maurice Barnett which contains both an historical and theological analysis. It's about 26 MB and can be downloaded from this filesharing site:

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=ffc24ebf8989755c7551557cede5988c

  The other is the book Millions Now Living Will Never Die: A Study of Jehovah's Witnesses by Alan Rogerson. It was written in 1969 and is dated in some respects. Unfortunately, it's been out of print for over 30 years. While it shares the same name as Judge Rutherford's book, it is not a pro-JW book. Rather, it's a very significant book and probably is one of the best ever written on the JWs. It's the type of book one could give to someone who has little knowledge about the JWs to give them a thorough overview of the religion. It's written primarily from an historical and sociological perspective. It's about 6 MB and can be downloaded from:

  http://www.filesend.net/download.php?
  f=54c85b5c9eaf437b8165f2f05a7843f1
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  WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

  mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

  here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

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  cabasilas

  JR,

  I've addressed your points in my earlier posts in this thread. I am not quazi defending the WT on this. When people confuse the facts it gives the JW apologists ammunition against the awful reality of what happened with the UN/DPI scandal.

  to become an NGO you have to register with the U.N. and be accepted , and say that you follow the U.N. charter.

  You're wrong on this. An NGO is simply a "non-governmental organization" and does not mean one has been registered with the UN or that one follows the UN Charter.

  Now, the Watchtower, as an NGO, did just that in the 1990s and that was the scandal of the UN/DPI affiliation with the WT Society that was exposed right here on JWN.
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  WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

  mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

  here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

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  cabasilas

  Yknot,

  Valid points.

  The reason I wanted to comment on this thread is because I was afraid some posters were confusing the issues with the earlier 2001 UN/DPI scandal. That was on a different level.
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  WTS attends as a NGO to OSCE in July- 4 branches present!

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  so i was just cruising www.extj.com/foro.

  mary received a interesting bit of osce information via a brother (peter) from germany....... http://www.extj.com/foro/showthread.php?t=14643.

  here is the pdf she has uploaded..... http://www.osce.org/documents/odihr/2009/07/38763_en.pdf.

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  cabasilas

  Are the JW members passive at these UN meetings, or are they there to argue their agenda?

  Good question. That is one reason I was interested in the comment made earlier in this thread about the possible timing of the recent Awake! on changing religions. Was this prepared to pass out to this Conference? Just wondering.

  I think it's worthwhile to research this event more to find out what the JWs are doing at these meetings.