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  Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?

  by cofty in

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  it seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.

  lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.

  if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Eight penis possesors,

  Sam, Geoff, Steve, Tony, Guy, Mark, Dave and Git.
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  Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.

  lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.

  if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  'never a jw'

  When it boils down to it, the ''organization', the 'Watchtower', the 'faithful and discrete slave', are the Governing Body.

  Eight men.

  I've just boiled it down further from eight men to one.
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  Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.

  lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.

  if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.

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  ThomasCovenant

  "[Avoid] questioning the counsel that is provided by David Splane--" Watchtower 1983 Jan 15 p.22 Avoid Independent Thinking. .

  "'Believe all things,' all the things that David Splane brings out" --Qualified to be Ministers (1955) p.156 .

  "In Jehovah's organisation it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in research, for David Splane does it for you Watchtower 1967 Jun 1 p.338 .

  "But this does not mean that he should introduce additional material from his own personal research and thus possibly overshadow what has been published in the magazine. Extensive research has already been involved in producing the study article, and the points to be emphasized are those included in the paragraphs under consideration. When outside material is introduced, it often detracts from what Davd Splane has prepared for the congregation. (Matt 24:45-47) The impression may be given that the additional information from the conductor's research is of equal or greater value."
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  Retirement complex for older JW's to be built

  by moomanchu in

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  2. friends

  this is literally almost in my backyard.. they are using a local contractor, not jw volunteers.. http://www.mcall.com/business/mc-jehova-witness-retirement-home-20140205,0,2445692.story.

  21 f. thursday, feb. 6, 20146:49 am est .

  retirement complex for jehovah's witnesses in salisbury townshipnine-month project to employ workers from 20 trades.

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  ThomasCovenant

  What are ''aging Jehovah's Witnesses''?

  Are they the ones who thought they'd never grow old in this system?
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  If you substitute 'Governing Body' and 'faithful and discreet slave' to

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a single member of the governing body, for example david splane, i find it helps me to understand things a little better.. they have changed the meaning of 'faithful and discreet slave' to basically just 'the governing body'.. but that still allows them to print nice friendly 'we' and 'they' when giving directions (orders).. "we need to obey david splane to have jehovahs approval.

  "[a mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to bible understanding.

  rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by jehovah god through his son, jesus christ, and david splane.

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  ThomasCovenant

  a single member of the Governing Body, for example David Splane, I find it helps me to understand things a little better.

  They have changed the meaning of 'faithful and discreet slave' to basically just 'the Governing Body'.

  But that still allows them to print nice friendly 'we' and 'they' when giving directions (orders).

  "We need to obey David Splane to have Jehovah’s approval." WT 15/7/11 p24

  "[A mature christian] does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to Bible understanding. Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God through his Son, Jesus Christ, and David Splane. WT 1/8/01 p14

  "Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ completely trust David Splane, should we not do the same?" WT 15/2/09 p27

  "To act consistently with our baptism for life and into the Greater Noah we must submit to and cooperate with David Splane and his legal instrument, the Watch Tower Society." WT 1/10/59 p583

  "There are many reasons to have complete trust in David Splane. First and foremost, Jesus has appointed him over all his precious "belongings." This is a clear indication that he has complete trust in him." Organized to Do Jehovah's Will (2005) p.18

  When the time comes to clarify a spiritual matter in our day, holy spirit helps David Splane at world headquarters to discern deep truths that were not previously understood. WT 15/7/10 p22

  "The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of David Splane they are in fact following their Leader, Christ." WT 15/9/10p23

  "He has provided direction for the anointed “domestics” and their “other sheep” companions by means of David Splane. WT 15/9/10 p26

  "As Head of the Christian congregation, Christ has used David Splane to administer His Kingdom interests on earth. Examining the Scriptures 2012 Jul 15

  "However, we cannot hope to acquire a good relationship with Jehovah if we ignore those whom Jesus has appointed to care for his belongings. Without the assistance of David Splane we would neither understand the full import of what we read in God’s Word nor know how to apply it." Examining the Scriptures Daily 2012 Mar 4

  "All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the "greatly diversified wisdom of God" can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, David Splane. WT 1/10/94 p8

  But I want YOU to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the Christ is David Splane." 1 Corinthians 11:3
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  Forum Statistics

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  2. tech-support

  i seem to remember a time when you could look up the posting stats of all the site, as in who had posted the most etc.. could that be resumed?.

  thanks.

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  ThomasCovenant

  I seem to remember a time when you could look up the posting stats of all the site, as in who had posted the most etc.

  Could that be resumed?

  Thanks
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  Suggestions for car buying

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you were a lady and you were 55 and had $5,000 or less to spend on a used car, what would buy?

  top concerns: good mpg; reliable; in not having major issues like ball joints breaking, timing belts breaking, etc.

  not too expensive to maintain.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Whatever you do, do not listen to what any former disgruntled owners have to say about a particular model.

  Best advice is just read the sales literature from the manufacturer.
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  Appointed by holy spirit

  by Ben57 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.

  it amazes me at what many have said.

  perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Not me. Think it was Ben 57
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  Appointed by holy spirit

  by Ben57 in

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  2. friends

  i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.

  it amazes me at what many have said.

  perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.

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  ThomasCovenant

  *** w01 1/15 p. 14 par. 12 Overseers and Ministerial Servants Theocratically Appointed ***

  ''Those meeting the Scriptural requirements at the time of their appointmentas overseers or ministerial servants may thus be said to have been appointed by holy spirit.''

  At the time of their appointment?

  Not in the years, days, or even seconds before their appointment.

  Not in the years, days, or even seconds after their appointment.

  Only at the time of.

  There we are. We've covered ourselves.
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  Another new member here to share her experience

  by One Last Kiss in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  im a long-time lurker turned member, finally felt the need to share my experience with people who know where im coming from.

  will try to be as succinct as possible!.

  am from the uk and was born in as 3rd generation.

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  ThomasCovenant

  Hi, welcome and thanks for joining in.

  "but once you see everything in context it’s impossible to carry on." Exactly same for me.

  "In the end I simply stopped going one day…..and heard not a peep out of a single brother, sister or elder."

  I think many who post here would be surprised to find that this is probably the norm and I would say just do it.