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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

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  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  For instance how does wiping debt help the citizens of Africa if it results in propping up a dictator like Mugabe, an arshole who is bulldozing the housing of the poor? How does it help with the internal civil wars and genocide that has been seen. One of the major problems in Africa is tribalism - in which one tribe will try and dominate or eliminate another tribe, how does wiping their international debt solve this?

  
  

  
  It doesn't, this area is a mess and money is not the answer. You throw money in and these warlords take it for personal use or to genocide another tribe. They take prejudice to a whole new level of hate.

  Muslim nationas in Africa claim the Wests advice to use condoms to stop the spread of HIV is a plot to reduce the fertility of muslims

  That makes me sick, AIDS is out of control in Africa. 1 in 3 woman will be raped in Africa, because the African males were told that to have sex with a virgin would cure AIDS.

  Is the west going to allow them to immigrate and get a good job?

  Were talking about a nation, whose people want to close the border with Mexico and Canada.

  It's all very well to preach an end to poverty but it's a lot harder to make happen; At least live8 will get some people thinking about the problem - and even if one country can be changed onto a course for the better, and it takes 20 years, wasn't it worth it?

  African hunger and bring it to the world attention is nothing new and yes it should be on the world's attention, to that I agree. My issue is that to truly help these people, who need it very much, we will need actions that will look a lot like what is happening in Iraq, with a military removing these warlords. The American people, and the world, want to see this happen with out bloodshed and it can not. We need to understand the problem better to learn how to treat it and when people think a concert that raises the attention of this issue is going to solve the problem. They are no different then the Witnesses who preach a peace to the world, but have no idea how to do it without someone else taking over. Someone else in the African problem case, is a military state.

  Here is an interesting link on this http://allafrica.com/stories/200506290326.html
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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
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  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  Did Live 8 or Live Aid, Bob Geldof or any of the artists involved do any harm? Did the make anything worse?

  Yes, they gave false hope. As a former Witness, you should understand the harm that does.

  So shut up criticising me unless you can understand what I wrote.
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  Psychoanalyzing the Governing Body and Other High Ranking Ones from a Dista

  by frankiespeakin in

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  psychoanalyzing the governing body and other high ranking ones from a distance.. i'm interested in some professional opinions on this, what makes these guys tick, what makes them perpetuate a fraud on the rest of jehovah's witnesses?.

  i know some can be pretty dogmatic in these areas, lets not try to be, lets look at this thing from many angles.

  even if your not a professional give your opinions.

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  what makes them perpetuate a fraud on the rest of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  I don't honestly think they feel it is a fraud. I think they feel it is Jehovah's work and what ever we see from the outside is not seen by them. I met people on the Governing Body when I was a Witness and always felt they were very spiritual people who wanted to do God's work. Right or wrong, I think they meant well and mean well. Much like all Witnesses.
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  PINK FLOYD tonight what did you think

  by littlemike in

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  i thought they were awesome.

  been a fan for 30 years saw them do the wall twice in 1980 and 1981. shouldnt have done as a witness what did you think

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  I wish I could have seen it. LIVE 8, whatever? Pink Floyd, awesome in any forum and any reason!!!!!!
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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

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  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  free...you remind me of someone who lives a very negative life; don't you realize that it's not what one has/owns in life but rather what one feels. What difference should it make to you if these artists live in nice houses . . it just doesn't matter, or haven't you gotten to that point in your life yet.
  
  

  Don't downplay someone for trying to do something worthwhile.

  
  
  Maybe we should make them a Saint then? In all, I am a realist and remember how much a waste of time Live Aid was. So if they want to act like they are something wonderful and that this is their change the world concert, let them. I am not buying it though ... seen it done before and I know where it does .... no where! Negative life??? Whatever! Can we talk about the subject and not try to side step into acting like I am not mentioning something that isn't in your own newspapers. I read this exact thought in a article and said it in a JW application ... then again, I could be demonized. Here is the point though, might have been lost. These rich people have a pitty party and act like they are doing something so wonderful! The news pats them on the back and acts like it is wonderful and omit the fact that it doesn't. Africa is not starving because there is a lack of food in the word. Africa is a mess, because it is corupt!!!! When we have tried to get food to these people, it sits on the docks and goes to waste. When we send money, the warlords take it. There are areas that change governments yearly in blood civil wars and the people kill one another with the heartless attitude that makes someone sick to think about it. When we have come in with military action, we got our asses kicked and ended up making a bigger mess then before we were there. People are upset that the USA is policing the world since 9/11, with terrorist nations. Now we are saying these same countries should tackle hungry, great! Sounds so good and simple, lets not forget loving. Now read what I just said above, see what happens and answer this ... should we police these nations to not do what they do? Maybe Jesus will change their hearts! From CNN.com

  But Live 8 has sparked debate over whether making money available to African governments encourages corruption.

  "Throwing money at African governments is not the answer," the brother of South African President Thabo Mbeki wrote, Reuters reported.

  Took me about five seconds to see what I was saying it mentioned on news organizations. It is not some reach of thought, this is something that comes across the news everytime someone mentions aid for Africa.
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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
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  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  How much human aid and personal resources have you folks contributed to the needy?

  Last year I helped with one of those builds to build a low income home. I donate to the United Way on my paycheck. In all though, I admit that I do not do a bunch. Although, I don't claim to be trying to accomplish something like Live 8, and then go home to my mansion.
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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

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  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  free2beme

  I heard a quote from bob geldof in which he stated, "my work is done?" Does that tell you something about the man? Your work would be done when the problem was over! He should have said, "my work has just begun!" Keep in mind, it was 20 yrs ago that LIVE AID happened and it took 20 yrs for him to actually take the time to do this again. Not much of a worker if you ask me.
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  Does anyone Love Jehovah anymore?

  by defd in

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  i know people have left for people issues but what about jehovah god and jesus?

  what have they done?.

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  I have love for life and the energy that we all exist in. I do not believe in Jehovah and do not worship the God of War anymore. I turned from the Christian faith when my spiritual eyes found their vision.
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  Anyone interested in astronomy???

  by zagor in

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  never saw a thread even remotely related to a topic of astronomy.

  so i'm just wondering if any of you shares my interest in the subject or is it all sex drugs and rock and roll (just kidding)

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  It's interesting, although I enjoy Tarot Cards more.
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  Live 8! Like Jehovah's Witnesses, all talk and no possible action.

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as i enjoy these concerts this weekend, where i got to see pink floyd perform.

  i am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done.

  these artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in africa.

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  free2beme

  As I enjoy these concerts this weekend, where I got to see Pink Floyd perform. I am reminded all the more how much us humans like to put on a good show, but really get very little done. These artist have spent time, money and effort to end world hunger in Africa. Yet in reality, this is nothing more then a concert that people tuned in to, to get something out of it, that had selfish gain, to see artist perform they always wished they could see live. Yet a year from now, just like 20 years since Live Aid, the world will still have hunger and Africa will continue to go on it's downward spirrel to worthlessness. An effort that seems so pure in motive, but so useless in reality. Much like our Witness life of the past.

  For you see I think for the most part, the message the Witness put out was something positive for mankind. It involved peace, loving relationships and much like the concert, a desire to end world hunger. They spent all these recorded hours going from door to door, and in bible studies sharing such messages and preaching when ever possible to all that would listen. Yet did they once, go to another country and plant a seed of food or take part in political change to end the horror they so often said was the sign of the end. No, for much like Live 8, they want someone else to do it. Live 8 wants the wealthiest countries in the world to do it. The Witnesses wanted Jehovah's army to do it. Yet with such active minds of hope, there is not an equal active body of action. So they fail, and fail they do often.

  The Live 8 people are often some of the wealthiest artist in the world, living in mansions (often with more then one) and vacationing in the dream locations of many. They eat food at the best locations and have it prepared by the world's top cheifs, while dressed to the max in the finest of clothing. Why can't these ones shed these material gains and give it all to actions of feeding the African nations, rather then just taking some time to sing? Why can't Witnesses who claim to have families of love and energy to preach about a peaceful future, take that love and energy and feed the homeless or build a house for the poor with the extra time they had for preaching. It does not happen, and that is the reality of these concerts and of this preaching work we took part in and exist today. It sounds so wonderful and the motive seems so loving, and yet they all hope someone else will do it and someone else never does. Africa will stay hungry, the world will continue to be at war and with lack of love. Yet there will always be a concert to bring it to our attention and there will always be a Witness preaching from door to door on the corner, to remind us what the world could be like if people were less show and more action. Yet that is the life there was, is and everymore shall be. For we have tickets to the show, lets enjoy it while it last.