Posts by donny

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Bummer weekend

by donny in

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this has been a lousy weekend!

in july 2009 my 20 year old nephew, ryan, died of complications from heroin and his best friend jeff neville spoke at the funeral.

he gave a very emotional talk and said that he was going to work at getting off the stuff himself.

This has been a lousy weekend! In July 2009 my 20 year old nephew, Ryan, died of complications from heroin and his best friend Jeff Neville spoke at the funeral. He gave a very emotional talk and said that he was going to work at getting off the stuff himself. Then on Saturday we received news that Jeff was found dead in a hotel room in San Antonio apparently from a heroin overdose.

Ryans page. http://www.facebook.com/messages/ryan.hurst89

Jeffs page. http://www.facebook.com/messages/jeff.neville.96

Then I log on to this forum and find out our beloved Oompa has passed away. Oompa was one of the few whom I chatted with when I began posting here in 2008.

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SAD news about OOMPA......

by redredrose in

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our friend, oompa, has passed away.

just recieved the news a couple of hours ago, and have almost no details.

it happened today or yesterday, he took his own life.

donny

That is terrible news! Oompa was one of the first few people I met when I began posting here 4 years ago. He will be sorely missed by those of us on this forum.

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I Want Proof Jesus Even Existed

by Farkel in

don't bother me with the josephus addendum.

i've already seen that debunked.. i am quite aware of the fact that the only evidence of jesus comes from his own followers who didn't even bother to write down his life for decades after jesus "died.

" don't know about you, but if i saw all that shit, i would have gone home and written three books about it that same day!.

donny

I agree with Erman that a person named Jesus existed and that he taught that everything would be fixed in his generation. When I read the Bible without any outside influence or commentaries, it is quite clear to me that Jesus and Paul were talking about the kingdom of God coming in their time (1st century). Nothing I read makes me think that they were looking for a day 2000+ years in the future.

Below is a paste to an interesting book stating that Jesus may not have existed.

http://www.amazon.com/Nailed-Christian-Myths-Jesus-Existed/dp/0557709911/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348930854&sr=8-1&keywords=nailed+ten+christian+myths+that+show+jesus+never+existed+at+all

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"The Thinkingest People On The Planet"...

by cedars in

...is the name of a video i will shortly be uploading to youtube.. but can you guess the identity of the person who coined this unusual phrase?!.

who will be the first jwn poster to guess his or her identity?!.

i can hardly cope with the suspense!!

donny

That word "thinkingest" really got to me. I am so happified now.

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A question for Athiests

by EndofMysteries in

i really do not understand how any can be athiests from thinking real hard about it.

how can you think everything on this earth just happened?.

from my understanding, to be athiest, this is pretty much how it goes.

donny

As for me, I live as an atheist but I cannot say for sure if there is anything beyond the physical realm. What I am sure of if that if there was any kind of creator being, it definitely was not the entity that is known by names such as Jehovah, Allah and the like.

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Who here lives in California?

by TimothyT in

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if you do tell me a bit about where you live in just a few words.

:).

timmy :).

donny

I live in Monterey County where it is often hard to tell summer from winter.

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My story. not that interesting but, I want to tell it.

by crystlew123 in

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hi my name is crystle.

( i dont care if my congregation finds out what i am posting.

i havent been "in" for ten years and i have already told severl members what i think and where they can shove it...:/) i am 27 years old, and a single mother of a wonderful 6 year old.

donny

Welcome to the board Crystle. Your story was a far cry from "not that interesting." I hope you find a lot of support and help here. When I read accounts like yours, it makes me realize how my struggle was much less intense.

Donny

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OK, this is the last time I will comment on this subject , but EVERYBODY does it.

by smiddy in

again, i just this minute checked to see if the video was still on-line at the official website of jw.orb ,sign language ",gods way is love " and of course it is still their .

the video on masturbation for the deaf community .much has been said on a variety of links,threads ,other websites , u-tubes , facebook , twitters , etc.

etc.. what is wrong with people , masturbation is a fact of life .do you honestly think that the pope of rome does not masturbate ?

donny

LOL @ besty. And that is supposed to be an advertisement for mature dating?

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Did you have to try another church or religion on your way to unbelief?

by donny in

back in 1992 when i was slowly extricating my way out of the wacthtower, there was no internet, smart phones or any other type of quick data download available.

i had basically 3 choices to obtain viewpoints from ex-jw's.. #1 - go to go to the library and look for books critical of the society.

#2 - go to a christian book store to look for the same.. #3 - order item like these from addresses or phone numbers listed in the back of these publications.. and while doing any of these things, you were always looking over your shoulder to see if any "brothers" were around.. the problem i experienced is that virtually all of these books, while giving you good reason to doubt the watchtower, always pointed to "christendom" as the way you needed to go.

donny

Thanks for all of the comments so far. I always find it fascinating to read about the different paths people took in leaving the Watchtower. One thing that I noticed quickly while attending other churches was how many of them really have no grasp on what they believe. For them, church is just a social gathering or a required ritual they go through every Sunday or in some cases Saturday.

One lady I met during that period was upset when I told her about Elisha and his having God kill 42 youths for calling him "bald headed." She said there was no such story in the Bible and when I gave her the verses to read, she blamed my former JW religion as "causing me great confusion" and said she was not going to waste time letting me try to read something into the scriptures that wasn't there. Talk about denial.

This and few other encounters finally told me that this was a futile effort and I slowly became agnostic.

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Did you have to try another church or religion on your way to unbelief?

by donny in

back in 1992 when i was slowly extricating my way out of the wacthtower, there was no internet, smart phones or any other type of quick data download available.

i had basically 3 choices to obtain viewpoints from ex-jw's.. #1 - go to go to the library and look for books critical of the society.

#2 - go to a christian book store to look for the same.. #3 - order item like these from addresses or phone numbers listed in the back of these publications.. and while doing any of these things, you were always looking over your shoulder to see if any "brothers" were around.. the problem i experienced is that virtually all of these books, while giving you good reason to doubt the watchtower, always pointed to "christendom" as the way you needed to go.

donny

I really had hoped that the "mainstream" churches would have shown me the way, but as time went on it became apparent that their beliefs took just as much faith to believe although they were easier to grasp. It was after 9/11 that I finally came to terms that I didn't beleive in anything supernatural.