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  Child Sexual Abuse Update from PA

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dated july 9, 2025 this is the 17th jehovah's witness, charged from the grand jury investigation.

  https://www.attorneygeneral.gov/taking-action/westmoreland-co-man-allegedly-abused-2-children-charges-result-from-grand-jury-investigation-of-jehovahs-witnesses-congregation-members/ .

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  carla

  Thanks Blondie
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  Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips

  by WingCommander in

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  2. friends

  colossians 2:16.

  "ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.

  read it, then read it again.

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  carla

  I brought this scripture up to my jw years ago. His response? "you mean you think it is ok to celebrate a new moon?!!" I attempted to point out that it wasn't me saying that but the Bible itself. He just couldn't get past a 'new moon' thing. Maybe he tied it to witchcraft or new age stuff? I don't know
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  Did the WT Policy on Lying Bother You When You Were a JW?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's the wt standard for lying: "while malicious lying is definitely condemned in the bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it" - insight pp.

  244-245. vs. websters dictionary:.

  lie, noun.

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  carla

  My jw said it was a lie I was telling when I first told him about the policy. Then I said to see for himself and he sputtered and danced around it trying to change the subject. Then I asked him who the father of lies was and that pretty much ended the conversation, at least for that day.

  That was years ago. Today? I ask who is 'entitled' to the truth? he will then try to bring up governments, spies, etc... to say, "see? they have legitimate reasons to lie too"
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  What the new JW light position really is 👍

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

  as my fellow elders are.

  we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

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  carla

  Yes, churches are filled with all kinds, they are not houses for saints. The difference is that if you belong to a church and have differing opinion and voice it, you will not be punished for saying so. You will not lose your children, you will not be encouraged to leave your spouse because they are a 'spiritual endangerment' , you will not be disfellowshipped. I know this because when I was a teen and having a discussion in a public class with my pastor and I disagreed with a concept/doctrine he bore me no ill will. We discussed, he allowed me my point and then made his point. All this while I was a mere teen and in class. We were allowed independent thinking and it was encouraged.

  Once again Anony Mous makes excellent points that you as an elder should answer but will not. Answer it in a public venue both in the kh and in public at large. Heck, do a video or podcast see how long you last in dubland. See how long your friends and family stick around. How about telling them you post here regularly? have you been honest with anybody in your life?
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  What the new JW light position really is 👍

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

  as my fellow elders are.

  we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

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  carla

  Elderberry are just pretending to be so dense?

  If someone goes to a church and are agnostic they usually would have no problem saying so. For example, they might say things like; "I am really just here for the social aspect, my wife wants me here with the kids, I enjoy the music, I am agnostic and would like to learn more, I am lonely and this fills a few hours, I'm checking out the men/women, I like the charity work they do, etc... etc..."

  Not one of those comments could you say in a kh and NOT have repercussions as many here live on a daily basis. If you went to a normal church and said " I think it is all b.s. (and for long time jw's that does not mean bible study) and there is no God and when we die that's it" nobody would treat you like a leper, keep you away from your children & family or anything. They might think you a bit of a nutter but they might think you are still a pretty good guy, hey, at least you would be honest. Maybe treating you as a fellow child of God in a heartfelt way would do you some good for all, not love bombed so all can see who is the best at it or just for show.

  There are no repercussions if you leave a church that is not a cult. How is this so hard for you to understand? that is why you are a hypocrite. You tell people what to believe, how to act you might even sit on a judicial meeting (whatever they are called now) and sit in judgment and affect someone's entire life and that of their family even though you aren't even sure there is a God and you don't mind mere men in NY telling you and everybody else how to live! Are you unable to admit even to yourself that you are a selfish self serving hypocrite live the life of riley while others suffer due to people like you? How do you look at yourself in the mirror? how do you sleep?

  I understand staying in for family but at least step down from all so called 'privileges' that can affect a persons life.
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  What the new JW light position really is 👍

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

  as my fellow elders are.

  we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

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  carla

  A hearty applause for Anony Mouse last post!
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  What makes a cult (in the pejorative sense)?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  michael moore writes:.

  a cult is an organization that enslaves minds and destroys families using cult mind control.

  cult mind control involves orchestrated deception, social pressure, psychological abuse, and repetitive indoctrination (brainwashing) centering around an unchallengeable ideology enforced in a totalitarian way in a closed socially-separatist community setting.

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  What is missing from this post? Elderberry and his 'loving' opinion.

  Yes Vanderhoven! if there is no graceful way of leaving you are in a cult. I don't care if you are in a garden club and on half says you deserve to die if you plant x over z and we don't want anything to do with you ever again! guess what? that garden club was a cult.

  Most churches and their members would welcome you and wish you to stay but understand the need to move on and wish you well. They would be happy to see you in the store and might even ask if you are happy in your new church but harbor no ill will of your choice. The body of Christ has many parts in most places. Minor disagreements mean nothing in the big picture. Most jw's cannot even understand what I just said, mine can't .
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  Brazil Lawsuit- Please Have Them Contact us

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please, if anyone knows how we can get in touch with ex-jw's who are part of this lawsuit, please have them contact me at [email protected].

  we just did a video about some leaked letters from the brazil branch that i want to share with them.

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  carla

  Thanks for sharing.
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  What the new JW light position really is 👍

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

  as my fellow elders are.

  we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

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  "The only way someone could criticise those of us who choose JW light is if they claim they definitely know the entire truth and that everyone else is wrong"- that is so blatantly false and ignorant I hardly know what to say. One does not need to know the 'truth' of something to see it is clearly dangerous, false and quite arrogant to say such a thing. Could one compare joining a gang (M13 or equivalent) and say, "you just don't know the truth that we live and why we must act as we do" ? (crimes, beatings, sexual abuses, theft, drugs, prostitution, blood in blood out, etc...you don't understand 'our' truth)

  Anony Mous is correct, announce and denounce the actions of the wt publically. If you, in your heart of hearts and ok, let's add reading the perverted wt Bible, find that the blood issue for example is ungodly and unbiblical, say so, go to the hospital when some poor jw is about to lose their child because the wt has said they must sacrifice their child upon the wt altar. Do you do that? no? a bit uncomfortable I suppose and you would lose much in the process. What happened to Jewish people who went against the rules & regulations? they most often were 'unclean' until morning, no shunning, no marking, simply unclean which could be rectified. (possibly bathing, prayer, etc...)

  What those of us who are aggravated with the like of your ilk is because you lack integrity and only look to cover your own ass at all costs, even at the expense of someone's actual life.

  I find it almost amusing that you use the word 'arrogant' for others. Why? because my jw is the only jw anybody in our family/friends have ever known and since he became a jw that is the word used most to describe his newfound 'religion'. People who loved him so much and such respect now say "I thought he was smarter than that" because they don't understand how cults work. They don't understand that he can look up both sides of any issue except the cult he is in, the jw's.

  As a side note I will direct you to the search bar (or go to youtube) and use it to find jw elders/ms who actually did what I and others here have suggested, use your next 'talk' to enlighten the cong to the lies, false prophecies, abuses and so forth. There are a few who come to mind, yes, they were about 20 years ago but they were men of integrity. Men who actually cared about truth, and even some who loved God enough to be honest even if they lost much. Men of true faith. Men who could have actual long conversations about doctrine, policies, etc.... men (or women) you no longer find in the jw org.
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  What is this?

  by Achille in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this image is from "the watchtower" july 2024 (study edition):i can't figure out what that object is that is between the sleeping apostles.wath is it?

  a stick, a scroll of the scriptures?

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  carla

  Once there were 3 men who were tasked to bring a very special gift to a queen in a far away land. She had lost her mate and was very sad and grumpy. Due to laws of the land she was not allowed to take another mate. The men stopped at a tavern had a few and then fell asleep on their way. They did not deliver the very special gift from their country to that of the queen. That is why those 2 countries have been at war all these centuries and even to today. Most don't remember the reason for the ongoing wars, but if you have access to the ancient scrolls you will find the story in the secret section of the scrolls.