Did the WT Policy on Lying Bother You When You Were a JW?

by Sea Breeze 7 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Here's the WT standard for lying:

    "While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it" - Insight pp. 244-245

    vs. Websters Dictionary:

    LIE, noun

    1. A criminal falsehood; a falsehood uttered for the purpose of deception; an intentional violation of truth.

    Watchtower seems to say that it is OK to lie as long as it is not "malicious". Of course, the liar gets to decide if he is malicious or not.

  • Ding
    Ding

    They turn it into a virtue -- theocratic war strategy.

    It will probably come in handy during Armageddon.

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    When I heard “Lying for the Truth”

    I immediately thought, how sad that a person could be fooled like that. If that doesn’t wake you up, then no history of false prophesy could ever.

    ttwsyf

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    And the problem with this is what?

  • TTWSYF
    TTWSYF

    Well Rati, The problem is

    It’s false.

    it’s not true

    Its a lie

    Basing real world decisions on how you live and die (hello, blood doctrine, college, friends/family/associations)

    TTWSYF

  • Sea Breeze
    Sea Breeze

    Here's the one the got my attention as a kid:

    Householder: Are you trying to change my religion?

    Dad: No we are just here encouraging bible reading

    A few years later:

    Dad: Son are you smoking marijuana?

    Me: No, of course not. I'm just taking anti-anxiety medication.

  • carla
    carla

    My jw said it was a lie I was telling when I first told him about the policy. Then I said to see for himself and he sputtered and danced around it trying to change the subject. Then I asked him who the father of lies was and that pretty much ended the conversation, at least for that day.

    That was years ago. Today? I ask who is 'entitled' to the truth? he will then try to bring up governments, spies, etc... to say, "see? they have legitimate reasons to lie too"

  • HereIam60
    HereIam60

    I never viewed it as "permission" to lie. Although they state "a person is not obligated to give truthful information to those not entitled to it..", they stop short of saying they may give false information. The implied course of action is that one should remain silent, but I'm sure there are those who take it beyond that...

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