Well done Maestro, well done...
Quentin
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What do we do with TOTAL FREEDOM?
by Terry ini left my cushy job at the bookstore and i'm totally free of employment responsibilities for the first time in millions of years.. i guess i'm now retired.. i can sleep as late as i want to but my body won't let me.
my eyes pop open automatically waaaaay too early.. i can go where i want.
the question now becomes: what do we do with total freedom?.
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LETS TALK JESUS.....
by Quentin inwas jesus a real living being?
or, was he a myth, made up 60 to 70 years after the fact.. i for one believe he did exist.
was the epicenter of oral traditions and overblown hype.
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... he was absolutely zealous for his God and for the law. He could have been a very devout man to what he thought was right.....( tec )... Perhaps, still it remains a mystery to travel all the way to Damascus rooting out what Saul considered blasphemy. There was no shortage of Christians in and around Jerusalem for him to "persecute". He didn't have to leave Jerusalem, or the area, to do his business. Other than his "conversion" on the way, there's something about Damascus were not being told. I doubt it was a dangerous trip, he would have traveled a Roman garrisoned road on the way, no intrigue there.
... don't know why someone who made something up out of thin air (or even just grossly elaborated), would die or suffer or be imprisoned for something/someone they knew was a fraud....( tec )...Lets think about that a moment. Nothing was made up out of thin air, nor was there fraud involved, grossly elaborated, maybe. The theology of Christianity was a slow process, developed over a long period of time. Dying, or being harshly imprisoned for a belief, cause happens all the time. How many jw's have lost their lives, or the lives of loved ones over the blood issue alone? There was nothing new about what was being taught. It was simply "re-packaged". People got excited, even to the point of persecution and death, over the new package.
Midget, unshackled, Witness My Fury and Terra make some very valid points. Although I don't think Jesus was psychotic. He was, by the Gospel stories, as Terra so aptly points out, a man driven to achieve a goal. He is the back story needed to fill the void of an already developing belief system.
Shellby, the EARLY Ebionites already had a Jesus Christ and a Christian teaching in place before The Gospels, Jesus of said Gospels and the Apostles. How embarrassing for Paul and the early church that would have been. Could be where Mark got his "Q" document, out of that community.
PS, give us some examples from your book list. Should be interesting.
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Great poem Nancy...Last three sanzas fit Bruce to a T, he's gone over the hill never to return. Don't you wish jw's would do that, getting a thrill of seeing them go over the hill?
It's best to just stay there pretend you are dead
the moose will leave and you'll get the thrill
of seeing the moose go over the hill
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LETS TALK JESUS.....
by Quentin inwas jesus a real living being?
or, was he a myth, made up 60 to 70 years after the fact.. i for one believe he did exist.
was the epicenter of oral traditions and overblown hype.
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Who was he going after, or why was he going after them?.....( tec ).....No Tammy, not the who. Acts tells who. It's the why, why travel all the way from Jerusalem to Damascus? Acts indicates there was a large, viable Christian Community there. Surly others were closer. It was the seat of a Roman Governor as well. Sometimes I think Paul was more of an enigma than Jesus.
Eventually, the myth was conveniently used in the bible to represent something the real Jesus never was....( unshakled ).....There's that need for a back story. Perhaps Jesus having local notoriety was convenient for that purpose. As the movement grew a gap needed filling.
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LAST OF MY WT IMAGES
by Quentin inas with all the other wt images see something you like and wish to use it fell free to do so.
that's what there for.. .
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Thank you RayPublisher and free2beme.
One always needs critics to put one in their place. Even spiteful ones.
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LETS TALK JESUS.....
by Quentin inwas jesus a real living being?
or, was he a myth, made up 60 to 70 years after the fact.. i for one believe he did exist.
was the epicenter of oral traditions and overblown hype.
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My meds are kicking my buttocks be back around 2 or 3 AM....Terry that's the second post you've made tonight that's blank....
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LAST OF MY WT IMAGES
by Quentin inas with all the other wt images see something you like and wish to use it fell free to do so.
that's what there for.. .
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AS WITH ALL THE OTHER WT IMAGES SEE SOMETHING YOU LIKE AND WISH TO USE IT FELL FREE TO DO SO. THAT'S WHAT THERE FOR.
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yesidid, thank you for your concern. The only jw friend I have is Terry. A member of this board, been gone from the cult for over thirty years. Even back then I wouldn't have given a hoot in hell what THEY thought. Not after what was done to me and my wife. Read my profile, think you'll understand.
You have real talent Quentin. Thank you, my PS7 is on another computer in the closet. Am using a dandy little freeware program, draw back it doesn't have layer's to work with.
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LETS TALK JESUS.....
by Quentin inwas jesus a real living being?
or, was he a myth, made up 60 to 70 years after the fact.. i for one believe he did exist.
was the epicenter of oral traditions and overblown hype.
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Thanks for your comments. I'll have more to say on the subject later in the evening. Let me leave you with this thought for the moment. There was a group of Christians called Ebionites ( sp? ) that preceded Jesus and the Gospels. Their Messiah was named by them as Jesus Little is known of this EARLY group as they were expunged in later Church History. Also, around 100 C.E. a man named Jesus was executed by the Romans.
I'm no Bible scholar either Tailsin, what you had to say was most appropriate to the discussion.
Thank you Mr. Flipper for talking Jesus, most enlightening it was...
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Thank you Terry, Tailsin and Sooner....
Ummmm, never thought of it that way Tailsin. Now I'll have to create another character.
I have an image I'll PM you, think you'll appreciate it. If I'm wrong about what I've heard you say, then you can scold me off board.