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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

by Quentin in

am currently reading this book.

would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

Quentin

It is my hope all of you who took time to download the book will not only enjoy the reading of same, but will find it to be an educational experience as well.

Mr. Gladden closes Chapter 1 with this thought; " I hope that it will appear as the result of our studies, that one may continue to reverence the Scriptures...special revelation from God to men...yet clearly see and frankly acknowledge ...the human fallible elements in them..." ( Pg 12 )

Once again Mr. Gladden reintegrates his reason for writing the book, doing so with impeccable honest scholarship, and a solid, sound, integrity as much as any man who would give God his due.

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More details of the bible students blending into Rutherford's empire

by Terry in

charlie taze russell had money, good looks, privately tutored education and a lot of personal charisma.

from his devout mother he got a healthy dose of hellfire and come to jesus instruction.

the family was presbyterian in a time when central authority was viewed with deep suspicion.

Quentin

All my wt images have been done within the last five years. Will open a new thread for display. They can be used by anyone interested in making use in anyway they see fit....

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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

by Quentin in

am currently reading this book.

would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

Quentin

It is well worth the read Snoozy. Another snippet from Gladden. Which we shall see is a common theme within his commentary.

"We are...told in 2 Chronicles xxvi. 22, that Isaiah wrote a history of the "Acts of Uzziah," which is wholly lost. Other casual references are made by prophets...thus apparently accredited...as authoritative utterances of divine truth. Why were they suffered to perish?" ( Pg 10 & 11 )

"The very fact they are hopelessly lost raises some curious questions about the method of revelation...Providence which suffers whole books to be lost by men would [ or so it would be supposed ] infallibly guarantee againist errors in the copies...we know that He has not so protected any of them." ( Ps 11 )

"We know he has not so protected any of them." Now that's a BOLD statment, Mr Gladden does not shy away from calling a duck a duck, it is the reverence, indeed the humbelness, in which he calls a duck a duck, being the saving grace of this book. It is not Gladdens intent to destroy one's faith, rather he seeks to educate the individual, that they may all the more defend their faith with vigor and honesty.

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More details of the bible students blending into Rutherford's empire

by Terry in

charlie taze russell had money, good looks, privately tutored education and a lot of personal charisma.

from his devout mother he got a healthy dose of hellfire and come to jesus instruction.

the family was presbyterian in a time when central authority was viewed with deep suspicion.

Quentin

Some of my favorite wt images...especialy the frist one....

THE DEVINE PLAN

CHURCH OF THE FDS

NO COMMENT NEEDED

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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

by Quentin in

am currently reading this book.

would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

Quentin

"... The mid-late nineteenth century was for many the Golden Age of Bible exegesis and commentary. So many of the critical works, concordances, etc. come from that era."....(Room 215 )...Exactly, somethung everyone needs to cinsider

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More details of the bible students blending into Rutherford's empire

by Terry in

charlie taze russell had money, good looks, privately tutored education and a lot of personal charisma.

from his devout mother he got a healthy dose of hellfire and come to jesus instruction.

the family was presbyterian in a time when central authority was viewed with deep suspicion.

Quentin

WOW!!!!!

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It is time to thank some important people

by Terry in

jw
friends

thank you randy for creating out of thin air the freeminds ministy reaching out to people damned and damaged by the watchtower.. you've been at it indefatigably and with little money for---what?

thirty+ years?

bravo!.

Quentin

Thanks to ALL past and present who get the truth out about the wtbts. From the upfront notables to the poster that makes a few comments here and there. Your hearts are in the right place, your endevours are to help the beaten down, torn and hurt. Al are to be commended for their input and whatever sacrifice they make.

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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

by Quentin in

am currently reading this book.

would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

Quentin

"...after you grow up and start learning, truly, about the origins of the Bible...you realize how much you've been suckered in all these years. As a child, you are definitely spoon fed someone else's interpretation of this book I think all...need some education on the origins of the Bible. Maybe this would be a good place for them to start"....( Heaven )...Agreed, jf we are going to base our lifes on Holy Writ we need to KNOW about its history..."Only the king james bible was made in heaven. All of the others are corruptions"....( Satanus ) Tounge in cheek?

Mr. Gladden does that with objective and simple observations. Here he shows there were two versions of the Jewish Scriptures and how they were used.

" When Jesus Christ was on the earth he often quoted from...the Jewish Scriptures...What were these Jewish Scriptures?...the sacred writings of the Jews were collected in two different forms. The Palestinian...written in the Hebrew language...the Alexandrain...called the Septuagint, in the Greek...This translation soon came into general use, because there were everywhere many Jews who knew Greek well enough but knew no Hebrew at all...Hebrew was a dead language...the common people did not understand it: the vernacular of...Palestinian Jews was the Aramaic...sometimes called the later Hebrew...having some such relation to it as...English...to...German...When "the Hebrew tongue" is mentioned in the New Testement it is the Aramaic that is meant...The Greek version...was, for this reason , more freely used by the Jews even in Palestine than the Hebrew original; it was from the Septuagint that Christ and his apostles made most of there quotations." ( Pg 6-7 )

Gladden states the Hebrew collection was used by scholars only, the Greek by common people " there were some important differences" between the two in "phraseology", "arrangement" and "contents." ( Pg 7 ) It is from the original Hebrew we get our Old Testement translation. ( Pg 8 )

That being the case should there be no reason to conted why we get confussion over doctrin and meaning of what was said? Gladden's book gives meaning and answer to that question.

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WHO WROTE THE BIBLE by Washington Gladden, PT 1

by Quentin in

am currently reading this book.

would like to share some excerpts from same.take note mr. gladden is objective in his wrting.see wikipedia for gladden bio.

excerpts, printed by waking lion press.

Quentin

"... the Dead Sea scolls and the Nag Hammadi discoveries have changed a lot of ideas about early Christianity. They were all dicovered only in the 1940's and 1950's. I would prefer to read a book that takes them into account."...( transhuman )

And the Ugaritic texts!....( Mat )

All well and good, howerver Galdden's book is not about early Chistianity, it is a about the Bible itself. From Chapter 11 "...we now come to adeeply interesting question,-----the question of the cannon" ( Pg 221 )

Interesting indeed. Did you know for example that the books of 1st and 2nd Esdras, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, Baruch, Susanna, Bel and the Dragon and the three books of Maccabees were included in the origanal King James, as well as the other five English translations that proceeded the King James? Why are they no longer a part of moderen translations. They were included in the Greek Septuagint.

It intrigues me that some of you are biased aginst a book written in 1891. Men of that day and time were as much of a scholar as men of today. Gladden's book is about the Bible, as a whole, not early Chistianity. As Juan Viejo and Terry pointed out there are an abundance of books and internet sites that address that subject. Are the above mentioned texts important, of course, in context of early Chistianity.

I will tell you Gladden goes into great detail about the New Testament in context of Who Wrote The Bible.

"...much the greater number of quotations from the Old Testement found in the Gospels and the Epistels are taken from the Septuagint." ( Pg 225 ) He gives examples to support that statement. They are not pulled out of a hat.

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Whose "mouthpiece" was Pastor Russell: Jehovah's or the Adventists??

by Terry in

either charles taze russell obtained his ideas from jehovah or he didn't.. if russell didn't get them from jehovah---from where?.

let's take a survey of the facts about william miller and subsequent adventist teachings.. then, we can ask this question again!.

when william miller (baptist farmer turned theologian) predicted the 2nd coming of christ in 1843/44 a large segment of america's population believed along with him.. miller was invited to preach in church after church.

Quentin

How does "Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose" compare with Proclaimers? I was 10-11 years old when I read the Divine Pupose, to me, at the time, it seemed to be upfront in its history. Whish I still had the older publications. Mom and Dad had books all the way back to the 1940s, with many bound volumes of the wt mags.