yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
@flamegrilled - you are giving God a free pass on natural disasters because 0.1% potential disconfirmation* of your worldview is an acceptable cost to you
atheists (me, us, cofty, whoever) have used a different scale in our observation. Massive scale death of the innocents are yet more evidence 'He' probably doesn't exist.
* " If a good friend told you the truth 999 times, but then said said something that appeared to be untruthful..."
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
94 pages in and here we are:
If intervention in natural disasters at this time is counter to God's ultimate purpose for his creation then I am prepared to accept that there is good reason for that.
Theist believers want to believe, sans evidence
Atheists haven't seen evidence yet.
I'm sure there is a genetic or personality type aspect to this, but I dont have the evidence yet ;-)
so i posted my story somewhere on this board but long story short i have been expressing my doubts to my mom who is a jw.
i have been fading since december 2013 and went to a sunday meeting for the first time maybe two weeks ago.
i went only because i wanted to use the library that my hall has which had books published by the society from the early 1900's.
welcome to JWN
your opening post is here if you cant find it...http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/268774/1/New-here#.UuJZw43FK2w
don't meet with elder(s)
make a plan for moving on with your life before planning on how to help your family
okay, it's just one scientist: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201404/frederic-dumoulin-interview/.
but he's a very eminent one!.
for more than a decade, frederic dumoulin has worked in the field of pharmaceutical research ... studied the effects of medications and toxins on living creatures ... such design simply could not have evolved.
" For me, such design simply could not have evolved."
appeal to personal incredulity, much?
http://b-gat.es/1g26ks2.
the world has never been better than what we have today and the future is very bright..... how different from the gloomy world that the witness preach about, the bad conditions we live in and the that the world is getting worse.. .
great letter #stopthemyth
new essex bethel plans include.... "its accommodation, predominantly for young members, would resemble a university campus but "nicer".
erghhhh..... don't become a lawyer or an engineer, a doctor or a nurse or a teacher.... come spend 3 years working for us at our factory for free.
look we have wifi...(no porn!).
new essex bethel plans include.... "its accommodation, predominantly for young members, would resemble a university campus but "nicer".
erghhhh..... don't become a lawyer or an engineer, a doctor or a nurse or a teacher.... come spend 3 years working for us at our factory for free.
look we have wifi...(no porn!).
this newspaper article is lacking comments...
sorted from high to low.
net increase in publishers2013 ave. pubs2012 ave. pubsincrease/ decrease in publishersincrease in pubs cumulative.
% increase cumulative columnabcde =a-b mexico (g-31)777,429749,58527,84427,84417.47%legend united states of america (e-32)1,167,7231,156,15011,57339,41724.73%red: latin/spanish landscongo, dem.
Britain Branch must be delighted with their +0.5% increase despite a 2% share of total publishers...
would be interesting to run that comparison for all countries to see who is under and over performing....
sorted from high to low.
net increase in publishers2013 ave. pubs2012 ave. pubsincrease/ decrease in publishersincrease in pubs cumulative.
% increase cumulative columnabcde =a-b mexico (g-31)777,429749,58527,84427,84417.47%legend united states of america (e-32)1,167,7231,156,15011,57339,41724.73%red: latin/spanish landscongo, dem.
this is discussed in detail at http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/go/news/article/1226627/charity-commission-will-accept-plymouth-brethren-application-charitable-status/.
the regulator says the preston down trust, whose initial application was rejected in 2012, has agreed to change its governing documentsthe charity commission has said it will accept an application for charitable status from the preston down trust, a devon-based plymouth brethren congregation.. the regulator announced today that it would accept an application from the trust, which adheres to a doctrine of separation that limits members contact with the outside world, after it agreed to change its governing documents.. the commission said the trust had agreed to amend its trust documents by entering into a deed of variation, which sets out, in a manner that is binding on trustees, the churchs core religious doctrines and practices.. it signals an end to a dispute dating back to february 2009, when the trust first made an application for charitable status.. a draft deed of variation, published by the commission, includes directions on issues such as how disciplinary matters should be dealt with among members.
it also says meeting halls should display prominent details about how non-members can attend services.. the commissions decision document says that it has heard allegations of harsh disciplinary practices for minor transgressions and people being cut off from the community.. it says there had been claims that threats of legal action had been made against people who spoke out against the brethren and those who leave "are ostracised and consequently treated differently from other members of the public".. in responding to these allegations, the commission said the plymouth brethren christian church had told it some were of an historic nature but it did acknowledge "past mistakes in relation to its disciplinary practices".. the regulator said the trust had "demonstrated a willingness to make amends and to do what it could as a christian organisation to ensure, as far as it was consistent with its religious beliefs, it would act with christian compassion in the future", particularly in respect of its disciplinary practices and in its relations with former members of the brethren.
some commentary on the decision by an activist, Laurie Moffitt
http://laurencemoffitt.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/the-sheer-insanity-of-pbcc.html
