Posts by FreedomFrog

The pain of how he treats me like someone that he would never allow his children around, like a murderer, pedophile, kidnapper, etc.....hurts so so much.

Ah...Jez...I'm sorry you're going through this. You're not alone. I know it sounds empty because words sometimes are not comforting. But for what it's worth, I feel your pain.

FF

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

I hope you do fine and that people such as my wife can find more peace and understanding that this lame organization does not indeed represent any real and objective truth

Thanks TLO...I also hope your wife can find peace as well.

Like my husband always tell me, I try to fix things and while "fixing" I break things because I'm in panic and I need to learn to slow down . And he's right. I'm a person that needs things to be fixed RIGHT NOW. It's hard for me to have patience when it comes to "fixing" things. I'm a very emotional person and I can't go to bed when someone is upset with me. I've just got to learn that you can't fix EVERYTHING over night.

FF

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

If you would like to hear any more bright ideas or minutea, feel free to PM

No No...I think you've HELPED enough!! (teeheehee)

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

LT...

You give me a lot to think about and I know Dave would do it for me. I still have 4 more days to see how I want to handle this.

Tell them without their neglect and "begging off" you would never have seen the "light". You actually need to thank them for forcing you to do what you never would have done on your own- think new thoughts! Also how "humbling" it's been to see that Jehovah really does feed the sheep in due season, and you know this first hand because you are now well fed. And that the Bible is right about the road to everlasting life being "cramped and narrow", you know because you're on it!

This is also a good point U/D. This also might have an impact on my parents. Maybe this can be in my DA letter if it comes to that.

hummm...lots to think about. And you're right LT. I had made up my mind to just forget about it and let them do what they have to do, but now I'm not sure if that's the best way. It's hard for me because on one hand I want to say forget it, it's not worth it. But on the other hand it MAY be worth it if I can keep a relationship with my parents. I don't want to close any doors prematurely.

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

LT...Your suggestion was a good one too. But I was also "caught" going into a church. I want to serve God and I'm still searching. I just don't want to serve him under any obligation anymore. If I did put Dave through this (which I'd hate him having to do it just for me) I still have to answer to the JC about going to the Church. I guess I could say it was me evil twin sister.

I think that their (my parents) reaction to me getting DF'd will be that they will do their own research. I do have some hope held out that they will lighten up a bit after a couple of years. Especially if I start calling with things like Sierra's baby appointments and Zach's first tooth coming out and other things that involve their grandkids.

I read Amazing's tactics of getting his family out. That was pretty smart. Unfortunately I live 2 hours away. I still will be throwing lot's of love towards my family. If they ever need help, I will be there. Hopefully that will help.

And you're right, JC are very traumatic. I've been through a couple myself. I DON'T want to go through it again.

Jez...

That's a good point. I think I will send letters out to my family. I already gave my parents a 50 page packet with the points I don't agree with the WT. My mom doesn't throw anything away. So maybe she'll come across it in a year or so and do more research on her own.

FF

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

If I am sounding like a "worldly-never-been-JW-woman-you-just-don't-understand", just slap me.

I know that you understand.

At first I was thinking about going to the JC. After giving much thought I just don't want to go through with it and had decided not to. I actually decided right after I got off the phone with my Mom this morning. Now I'm trying to come up with a strategy to get my parents to see the TRUTH about the truth on their own.

This post is really just an observance. An "interesting" point.

FFrog

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

but they never tell how they didnt do their part.

Yeah...and isn't it interesting that the ones that want to be "in good standing" with the Borg must also not be able to talk to the person DF'd? How would they ever find out what REALLY happened. I'm sure the Elders will "fail" to mention that they forgot to help out in my case. I was just a "stubborn, goat that didn't want to accept discipline. Oh well.

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Steaming Angry - Forced to explain Shunning to my 5year old daughter!!!

by chok in

i am absolutely hopping mad angry!!!!.

to those of you who know me, you are aware that i have been fading for over a year now.

i have a daughter who is 5 and a son who is 2 y. in brief iast year i separated from my husband, left the organisation, met someone else and am now expecting with my new partner.. well i have had the usual ups and downs with my jw family.

FreedomFrog

....I know it's hard. My son, 6 years old, gets angry because "Grandma and Grandpa makes mommy cry".

I'm told it gets better (I've only been out for about 4 months).

Hang in there.

FFrog

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Slow to help....Quick to punish!

by FreedomFrog in

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ok...thought this was interesting.. mom called this morning practically begging me to go to the jc meeting that's coming up this weekend.

i explained that i had asked 6 different elders to get a study started with me within a span of 4 years because i was "feeling weak".

each time i asked for a study i would say "i need help because i'm losing faith".

FreedomFrog

Preston...

No...! I'm sick of them. I don't want any part of them. I just think it's interesting that my Mom is now calling to try to talk me into going. Dave (AA) and I think that it's because she went to the meeting yesterday and talked to an elder and he probably told her that I have a good chance of not getting DF'd if I did go, and if "I was truly sorry". I'm NOT truly sorry that I believe different. I've been to a total of 3 and it was hard! I don't want to go through that again.

When assigned, the publisher conducting the study may count the time, the return visits, and the study.

Narkissos...

I guess they just didn't have time then. I wonder what they are thinking now that I've left. I wonder if they wished they had made time for that study. I wouldn't want to be one of them now, I'd feel very guilty.

I'm out now and I'm happier about it.

It's just interesting, "slow to help...quick to punish."