What changed since 2006? Don't trust apostates for the answer to that one! Best bet would be for you to go back an attend your old book study group. They'll tell you what's changed over tea and cake in a cosy informal setting.
slimboyfat
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What's changed since I left in 2006?
by Jehovah lol ini think i made a thread like this a couple of years ago but i can't remember what was said and i'd rather have a new discussion anyway.. what's different in the wts since i left it behind in 2006?.
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284000 baptized in 2017
by jw-verite inseen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
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slimboyfat
See the graphs 5th and 6th down. Baptisms are trending down long term, and are well below their 1990s peak, especially in percentage terms.
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
In the mid 1990s baptism numbers were almost 8% of the publisher number, whereas in recent years it dropped to nearly 3%. That is a huge reduction that makes real growth pretty much impossible.
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284000 baptized in 2017
by jw-verite inseen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
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slimboyfat
Yeah but the push for kids to get baptised has been going at least four years, so strange to have a bump now, I think it's just random fluctuation. In historical perspective baptisms are well down from their peak in the 1990s, especially in percentage terms.
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284000 baptized in 2017
by jw-verite inseen in the 03/2018 watchtower study :.
"during the 2017 service year, more than 284,000 “rightly disposed” individuals symbolized their dedication to jehovah by water baptism.".
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-march-2018/baptism-requirement-for-christians/.
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slimboyfat
Yes it is somewhat surprising, this increase in baptisms.
The all time peak for baptisms was around 380,000 in 1996, or thereabouts. (From memory)
It will be very interesting to see the congregation total, in view of "consolidations", if it is published.
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New NWT, then and now - a comparison of the 2013 NWT, 2013 vs 2017.
by MeanMrMustard inacts 2:9. old text:.
acts 2:10. old text:.
acts 2:11. old text:.
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slimboyfat
Thank you very much Mean Mr Mustard!
Initial comments: first of all I think it's interesting that there are not many changes. I can't quantify it, but I think there were more changes around the first few printings of the NWT in the 1950s and 60s, including some striking ones. (John 1:1 "Originally the Word was with God...") Maybe this indicates a degree of care and decisiveness with the 2013 revision.
Second comment: what on earth went on in Matt 5:18? It's almost as if someone with a sense of humour in 2013 decided mischievously to remove a phrase from the very verse of the Bible that says no jot or tittle can be removed.
Bibles sometimes get nicknames because of such mistakes, most famously the "wicked Bible", or "adulterous Bible", which instructed rather than proscribed adultery: "thou shalt commit adultery".
Maybe the 2013 NWT could be named the "heaven passing" Bible, because of the missing "smallest letter". Or a catchier title I can't come up with.
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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slimboyfat
That rock I see outside in my backyard isn't going to get up and move on its own. Never. Ever.
No doubt true. But also not something a panpsychist would expect or believe either.
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Watchtower Organizational Structure
by Wild_Thing indoes anyone know of any diagrams online that show the current hierarchical structure of the watchtower compared to the previous hierarchical structures of the past.
i know they have complicated it on purpose to try to protect themselves legally from lawsuits.
i would like to try to understand their current structure compared with the past.
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slimboyfat
Remember the famous WT visual showing the level of comfy chair depending on position in the organisation? On the cedars page (you may need to paste it in):
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/are-jehovahs-witnesses-a-hierarchical-religion-and-does-it-matter
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Salvator Mundi
by compound complex inhttp://www.christies.com/features/the-last-da-vinci-salvator-mundi-8598-3.aspx.
an ethereal rendering of jesus, savior of the world, in whose left hand rests a crystal orb.
in what painterly manner did leonardo "repent" while producing this work?.
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slimboyfat
Very intersting. I didn't know there were so few da Vinci paintings extant.
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Salvator Mundi
by compound complex inhttp://www.christies.com/features/the-last-da-vinci-salvator-mundi-8598-3.aspx.
an ethereal rendering of jesus, savior of the world, in whose left hand rests a crystal orb.
in what painterly manner did leonardo "repent" while producing this work?.
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slimboyfat
Looks slightly feminine to me. Like Conchita! But I know nothing about history of art, it's probably normal. Have the eyes faded or do they look vacant? Is this the whole picture or an abstract? What prompts your interest in it?
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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slimboyfat
I think it’s possible for humans not to feel hungry (with medical conditions that interfere with digestion and/or appetite) but doesn’t mean the person isn’t conscious.