I don’t know if it’s codified as such but I definitely think there is an assumption that “discipline” means being moved one rung down the ladder the higher up your position in the organisation. So an elder might get removed as an elder, whereas an ordinary publishers would have been disfellowshipped for the same offence, and a circuit overseer might be demoted to an elder rather than being stripped of being an elder altogether. If so, what that means for AMIII I’m not sure. Being stripped as an elder is a much bigger deal than not being allowed to pioneer. Who really cares about that? Only sisters who have it as the only badge of honour. I don’t know if GB members do typical elder duties in local congregations. Do they have the time to attend the meetings of a local body? If not, AMIII might now have the time, if he’s still in a position to attend. Would he want to? Who knows. Basically, we don’t know anything! Ha! Will we ever find out? Amazing how they’ve kept a lid on whatever happened.
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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body
by WingCommander inthis has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.
this is not a joke.
anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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The events of the last couple of weeks have been a complete defeat for Lloyd Evans don’t let him fool anyone otherwise. Over a year ago he reckoned he was well within his rights to use patron money to cheat on his wife and visit prostitutes every couple of months and he said so in those terms on his livestream and in his statements. He invited his audience to judge for themselves. The verdict came back and it was a resounding rejection by the majority of his viewers and patron supporters. For most of the following year LE valiantly tried to hold that line in the face of everyone credible leaving him, Andrew Gold, Dr Das, over half his patrons, and more. He kept ploughing that same rotten line regardless.
Last week, in a complete volte face LE dropped all his self justifications because he finally realised nobody was ever going to buy it. Instead he concluded he had no option but to hide behind the welfare his wife and family (and Tibor) and vague references to “defamation” instead of telling his audience what he really thinks about his right to sex. Whatever way he paints it, that is a tacit admission that his position is indefensible and he can only attract new supporters by obscuring his real position. Now all he can do is hope his new supporters don’t search “Lloyd Evans defamation” in any search engine because his recent patron boost is built on lies and obfuscation and he knows it.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Kim knows because Dijana sent them to her. So she’s is in a position to say they are real. You are LE aren’t you? Are you using one of those things that disguise your location? You’ve got the same unmistakable stamina for pumping out poo that LE does. And don’t bother telling me I can’t prove it. I’m not interested. Work your magic excrement on somebody who gives a.
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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?
by slimboyfat inhave you seen this video about the covid vaccines?
have you got any views on the information?
i find it worrying at least.
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Even the BBC are starting to talk about it apparently
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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If anyone still supports him after watching the livestream they need their head examined. Everything else like these letters are interesting - and shocking, but superfluous. We know they’re real because Kim is in a position to know and says they are real. Others are welcome to their own opinion, it doesn’t make any difference in view of his own video “confession”.
I suspect the vast majority of his new patrons have not seen his livestream. I know there are a handful of whacky individuals who defend him in full knowledge of livestream (absurdly gleefully, it seems) but they are surely a minority.
That’s probably why LE was very vague about the so-called “defamation” in his latest videos - because he doesn’t want to altert new people to his livestream video. He might have secured a partial recovery in patrons, but it’s based on a lie that could explode under him at any time and he knows it. That’s why he so careful to be vague.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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That’s a good idea. Edit the livestream down to the key five minutes or so, repost it on YouTube and promote it as widely as possible.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Could I suggest, to those who are dejected and wish to make a difference - and I am sorry that I can’t be any help here - that the best and most effective response to his recent YouTube begging videos would be a succinct, targeted YouTube video specifically in response to his begging videos. Because most people find him on YouTube it stands to reason that’s where most of his patrons go on to find out about him as well. They are not reading forums or websites. Many people get most of their information from YouTube videos.
An effective video shouldn’t be much longer than 20 minutes or so, focussing heavily on the major points from his livestream, his hateful open letter to Kim, a visual showing that more than half his patrons resigned in disgust, clips from former supporters explaining why they left, a mash up of clips from all the YouTubers he’s attacked and defamed over the years, clips from Dr Das and Andrew Gold and their encounter with this ‘narcissistic psychopath’, his begging contrasted with his criticism of Watchtower begging, him lying about his company having no money, the CofC copyright fiasco, doxing people on Facebook, and whatever else I’ve missed.
It would be a lot of work, but some of it has already been done in older videos. It needs to be updated and comprehensive, yet succinct as possible. If somebody made such a video, or a small team together, then I’m sure most people here would get behind the video, like it, share it, promote it on YouTube so that at least some of his new patrons will know the real story. It’s just a suggestion, but I think it would be a better use of time than lengthy posts on forums and websites, because a short video with all the main facts would have far greater reach to his target audience than all the posts and web pages combined.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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he can’t keep going back to the well of threatening to pack up his toys and go home.
Unfortunately, I suspect he can, because it’s new people he’s sucking in. He’ll probably pull a stunt like this every few months each time his support dips. When the dust settles, however, he’s still 300 patrons down from his livestream, and nobody credible will work with him. And now he’s still on the hook to produce his pointless videos. The euphoria in his bedsit will quickly subside.
Those people who do agree to interviews with him, mainly smaller vendors, to promote their own books or channels or whatever, bear some responsibility for keeping him going. They are free to do what they like of course, that’s their choice. I am also free to have complete disdain for their choice and nothing to do with their products. They might get a short term boost but they harm their own credibility.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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What is the ‘woke’ position on sex exploitation in Thailand anyway? How does that fit?
I’m still amazed people were taken in by his begging video. Everything in his statement is so manipulative and needs translating into plain language.
Our landlord at Rama Crow has been very, very understanding and I'm hoping that he won't cause us any problems with demanding too much money
In other words LE wants to back out of a contract and expects not to be asked to pay what has committed in full. If not, he will again claim some sort of unfairness just because he is not being given special treatment.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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He is obviously cock a hoop at his latest patron windfall and won’t lose a minute to rub it in the faces of his ‘detractors’. Pride comes before a fall LE. You might think you can mock Kim now but your actions come back to haunt you. You’d think if you could have learned anything the past year it would be that.
He clearly stated in one of his videos (I think the Andrew Gold interview) that ‘exploitation in Thailand is a conversation worth having’. I’m still wondering when he’s going to have that conversation that he says is worth having. Because ever since it has been brushed under the carpet or false impressions given by this huge distraction over whether it makes any material difference whether exploitation of vulnerable people was the primary purpose of the visit or just a secondary pursuit. LE arrogantly thinks it makes a difference but I don’t think it makes much difference to the people involved or to victims of abuse he would claim to represent.