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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
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  original reddit post (removed).

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  slimboyfat

  “Physically in, mentally agnostic” - he’s started a whole new paradigm!

  Personally I’d like to try PAMO, “physically agnostic, mentally out” just to see what it feels like 🙂
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  There was a suggestion earlier in the discussion that there was a back and forth, hint of disagreement between Morris and Lett in a recent broadcast (was it from the annual meeting?). I’d like to hear more about that, or a link to the videos. Can anyone point us there? In the absence of anything else, it might provide some clue about why Morris is no longer on the GB.

  Personally I think the possibility of alcoholism and associated anti-social behaviour may be behind his removal. Because even on camera he shows some signs of lack of control in what he says and how he says it. He also shows some indications of trauma from his time in Vietnam that would be consistent with alcohol addiction or dependence. I can easily imagine that he would be a difficult person to deal with in meetings. If that was partly fuelled by alcohol then that would give the other GB members justification for warning and then removing him. I acknowledge this is speculation and I don’t claim otherwise, just that it’s a plausible explanation that fits with what we know about Morris.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  slimboyfat

  Two weeks on and still no real information on what happened. Strange!
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  "Mankind's Search for God" book

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this book was published around 1990, but was never studied (to my knowledge).

  does anyone know the reason why?.

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  I don’t think it was studied at the book study either. Parts of it were used in service meeting items which may explain why some copies have underlining and notes.

  If the book was used at Gilead and used as evidence of a balanced religious education that makes sense. It was also part of the move away from the more belligerent engagements with other religions to a more ‘respectful’ disagreement.

  In my memory some JWs were proud of the book and liked to use it in the ministry or to place in libraries or use with school teachers and so on because it has a more pleasant tone as well as a good layout and design. It was one of the last books to be published while they were still charging for the literature, so it was a quality haptic hardcover.
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  Prediction of Watchtower in a Few Years

  by Foolednomore in

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  2. friends

  kingdom halls will be the thing of the past.. conventions (mini assembly halls will still be going on) but will charge for attending and parking and always a donation.

  elders will play a much smaller role since csa.

  cart preaching will replace door to door.

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  I am sorry to tell you Phizzy, but I know many churches that have declined far more than JWs and have never reached a point of saying “can this be the right religion”, or “is it worth it”, and “time to throw in the towel”. Well on an individual level I am sure some members do think that - and that’s part of the reason for the decline! But it never seems to reach a tipping point where there is a collective reckoning as such.

  Churches that have experienced severe decline in recent years where I have some direct knowledge include Methodists, Church of Scotland, Mormons, Christadelphians, Unitarians, Baptists, Brethren, Swedenborgians, Christian Scientists, New Apostolic Church. I’m probably forgetting some. Some of these churches have lost half their members, or more, over the past 20 years. Yet until there is literally no one left to physically turn the light on and off (this happened with the Swedenborgians who closed in Scotland with 4 members remianing, down from 800 in the 1950s) there simply doesn’t seem to be a level of decline where a religious group will throw in the towel early. They just struggle on and readjust to the shrinking numbers as best they can until there is no one left.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  I watched the start of the video, the first ten minutes, and he keeps on saying he either won’t lie to JWs at the Kingdom Hall about who he is, or that he doesn’t want to lie about who he is. He can’t quite make up his mind whether he intends to lie or not, but he wants his audience to know that he really doesn’t like the idea of lying about who he is in any case.

  But isn’t this a bit odd. He has admitted to visiting sex workers behind his wife’s back every couple months. This must have involved dozens, or hundreds of lies, week in, week out, to his wife, their family, and probably others, for years, about where he was going, and what he was doing. Why does he care so much about lying to strangers on one occasion when he is practised at lying repeatedly to his closest family about something more important?

  Maybe that’s stating the obvious to the point of redundancy, but it just grates for a known liar to pretend as if lying is of any consequence to them. He can’t really mean any of it, I guess it’s all a performance for the channel.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  LE is skilled at distinguishing people who are useful to him from people who are not useful, discarding those who are not useful, and doing enough to keep useful people on board. So as long as Tibor is useful he will be pleasant enough to him. Plus on the other side Tibor has demonstrated he’s willing to put up with a lot.
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  JW words ph rases I don't recall seeing in the Bible

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was trying to think of some common jw words and phrases i don't think are in the bible .. new world order new system spiritual israel governing body channel of communication organization reporting time pioneer aux pioneer circuit overseer kingdom hall circuit assembly district convention....,maybe you can think of something to add if you are inclined..

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  Suggestments
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  Being embarrassed by a JW when you were a JW

  by punkofnice in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was out on the ministry(tm) in the 1980's when i was pie-on-earring.

  i was only a lowly publisher(tm) being coached by a rather odd elder(tm).. one of the publications(tm) had recently mentioned japan and the growth(tm) of jws there.. the elder(tm), brother(tm) i was with offered the magazines(tm) to the householder(tm).. then he stated, 'there are (gave the reported numbers at the time.

  i can't remember the number he stated), jehovah's witnesses(tm) in japan.'.

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  Embarrassed on the ministry when a young man at the door said he was dating a JW woman. The sister I was with got out her notebook and pen and asked the young man for the name and congregation of the sister so that she could report her to the elders for dating a non JW.

  Also embarrassed by the JWs who would insist on ostentatiously saying a group prayer before a meal in a restaurant.

  I was embarrassed for a sister in the meeting when she expressed delight about a local church that had burned down because it is part of “Babylon the Great”. It sounded way over the top to me, to the point that I wondered about whether she really meant what she was saying. She was someone who converted to become a JW in order to marry a JW brother she had met at the gym. I already suspected her conversion might be less than genuine, and her over the top comment about Babylon the Great burning down made me suspect that she was attempting to imitate a JW response to the situation and not expressing her actual opinion.
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  Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

  this is not a joke.

  anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

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  slimboyfat

  Thanks Nostromo, for the additional information.

  Even for Jehovah’s Witnesses, not explaining the reason for the removal of a member of the Governing Body smacks of controlling and secretive behaviour.
  

  I suppose they could argue that the reason for the removal of elders is not announced either. But Governing Body members are treated like fonts of wisdom because they constitute the faithful slave, not as any other elder. How can ordinary JWs be expected to devote such attention to Governing Body members on the one hand, and on the other hand be offered no explanation for the sudden removal of one of the members? Even the short announcement has now been removed from the website. I can imagine some JWs, who didn’t see the announcement, are now in the position of not really knowing whether to believe that he has been removed because there is no official mention of it. They may infer it is true that he has been removed by his absence on the GB page, but why are they leaving ordinary JWs in the position of having to draw that inference?