one of the first prayers that many people learn is the lord’s prayer, which jesus taught his followers.
this prayer is found in what is commonly called the new testament.
the prayer begins: “our father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified [or hallowed].” (matthew 6:9) yet, god’s name, rendered in english as “jehovah” or sometimes “yahweh,” is rarely found in english translations of the new testament.
Very interesting, a more substantial article than we are accustomed to these days. With the magazines being all but retired, I don’t suppose it will appear in print.
There is a copy of the Hermann Heinfetter translation on the archive website, but I discovered, when using it to collate the instances of ‘Jehovah’, unfortunately there are many pages missing from that online copy.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Plantinga’s argument isn’t against the reliability of our senses. It is an argument against the reliability of our senses given that naturalism is true. Since Plantinga rejects naturalism he is in a position to affirm the reliability of our senses on the basis that they are the result of more than just natural processes but the result of the intention of God.
As Joe Schmidt explains in the video, the proposition that all true knowledge rests on science is self defeating because science relies on basic assumptions that cannot be proved by science.
Evolution explains false beliefs just as well as it explains true beliefs. For example, why do we shiver when we hear a rustle in the bushes on a dark night? Evolution has programmed us to have a hypersensitivity to threat that in many ways creates an inaccurate picture of reality in order to boost survival. Given that evolution can produce such mistaken perceptions on a most basic level of everyday experience, why should we assume that evolution should have equipped us to accurately perceive, assess, make sound arguments concerning questions at such a high order of abstraction as the origins and meaning of the universe?
Once again, I should point out that I’m not arguing that humans are incapable of perceiving reality (I think Donald Hoffman is wrong about that, but he’s definitely worth checking out). The point is that given that we are able to perceive the world around us accurately, divine intention that humans should be equipped to understand the world is the best explanation for that fact.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Disillusioned JW, one of the reasons I began ‘doubting’ atheism is because I realised just how bad some of the atheist arguments being promoted at the time were. See this video by Joe Schmidt, himself an agnostic, detailing weakness of arguments by Dawkins, Harris, Dennett and others:
To me the argument that makes the best case in favour of God is Plantinga’s argument against naturalism. Basically he argues that if naturalism is true then we are the product of a natural process that favours survival over truth. If that is so, then we have no basis for trusting our senses and our mind to reflect reality truthfully. If that is so then we have no basis for trusting that our view of naturalism is correct because it was derived from our perception and our mind. Therefore naturalism is internally incoherent.
The way out of this paradox is to assume that we are not the result of a natural process that has no regard for truth, but that we are the intentional result of God’s decision to create humans as creatures with an ability to perceive the world around us.
I also find the work of Donald Hoffman very interesting in confirming the idea that naturalism does not produce accurate perceptions in conscious beings. But instead of throwing out our understanding of reality, I think it’s simpler to throw out the idea that we are entirely the result of natural processes. The Bible says we are unique because we are made ‘in the image of God’. Science is now catching up with what that uniqueness entails. I find the work of Simon Conway Morris interesting in showing that evolution may have a direction and purpose baked into the process itself which best explained by God’s intention for the universe to be home to intelligent creatures who can perceive it and self reflect.
It also seems to me that the belief that the universe and intelligent life arose from nothing and for no reason is a pretty big ask. As I currently understand things, a simpler and more satisfactory understanding of our existence and our ability to perceive the universe is the proposition that we are the intentional result of a mind that is outside of time and space.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
You missed out verse 4 which says:
Hebrews 1:4 “So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.”
If Jesus became superior to the angels then what was he before?
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
If you read Phil 2:5-11, without trying to squeeze the Trinity into it, it says that Jesus was in the form of God, and is subject to God. The only spirit creatures we know about in heaven are angels of various kinds. So given the description of Jesus here, and elsewhere, it makes sense to understand Jesus as an angel, although the preeminent, firstborn and most powerful of all the angelic creatures.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
I’m not sure. Let me think. I haven’t thought about that exactly, and my beliefs are a moving target over the years. I started out a believing JW, then through phases of agnosticism, atheism, back to theism, belief in the Bible. There are probably things I disagree about. I think possibly that everyone should partake of the bread and the wine, not just Christians with a heavenly hope, because there is a verse in John that seems to says we need to partake in order to live. I think it’s possible that Jesus is not exactly an angel but, as the only direct creation of God, he is a unique spirit creature who, as archangel, is superior to angels - but that might be a semantic distinction without much significance. One thing I don’t think JWs explain very well is in what sense Jesus will be ‘with us in paradise’ as he said to the person being executed at his side. Will Jesus have a fuller presence on earth in the future?
What do you think?
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Do you believe that Jesus is a man now?
No. Heb 5:7 talks about “the days of his flesh”, indicating that Jesus was temporarily a human during his time on earth. At his resurrection, 1 Cor 15:45 says that Jesus became a “life-giving spirit”. Phil 2:5-11 indicates that Jesus started out as an angel, lowered himself to become a man, and was afterward exalted to an even higher position than before.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
Christians have always maintained that Jesus was BOTH Man and God..... not one or the other.
1 Timothy 2:5 says “For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.”
Originally Christians taught that Jesus was a man while on earth. The idea that he was God and man at the same time came in the fifth century at Chalcedon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Chalcedon
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
In Rev 3:12 Jesus talks about ‘his God’. This shows that Jesus is lower than almighty God, who is his God.
Rev 1:1 says that the book is a Revelation from Jesus, which God “gave to him”. This shows that Jesus relies on almighty God for knowledge.
Rev 3:14 says that Jesus is “the beginning of the creation of God”.
Almighty God is the one speaking in Rev 1:8 as the text itself says.
All these, and more, show that Jesus is subject to almighty God.
I know you have no answer, as usual, but I leave these points below your latest pontification.
original reddit post (removed).
Oh right, one of the atheist YouTubers that LE aspires to emulate?
I suppose LE and Dillahunty became firm friends too. Has he come out in support of LE? I guess he’s got enough of his own stuff going on to not be bothered weighing in on this. They seem pretty similar in some ways, except Dillahunty is a bigger fish.
