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slimboyfat
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Why the resurrection must be true
by slimboyfat inokay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
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slimboyfat
She's from Kilmarnock. The competition she won was in New Zealand.
Apparently I missed the end, which is the best bit. A reference to Scottish politics.
So USA, in ma conclusion,
Know we Scots feel your confusion:
We are also chained ti those
Not of oor choosin’.
Stand firm fur unity will break
Through Trump’s delusion.I am loath to link such a unionist rag but here it is for the rest of the poem and recited.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/burns-inspired-comic-lament-walloper-9637480
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slimboyfat
Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden. If any of them (if any of us) are around in four years time, let's hope.
Melania Trump speaks six languages. But I'd like to see her in conversation with Zizek in their native language. They both went to Ljubljana University too.
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Why the resurrection must be true
by slimboyfat inokay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
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slimboyfat
Thank you bohm for wiriting that. I've read it a few times. So you are arguing against the proposition that intelligent beings will ever be able to gather information about the exact composition and dynamic of the universe. And you argue against the proposition using chaos theory rather than quantum theory as in the video posted above. It seems you are basically arguing against a deterministic universe.
Or maybe not, maybe you are saying that the universe in itself may be deterministic, but not in a way that we will ever be able to decipher, because our measurements wil never be precise enough. I think this is an important distinction because, if the universe in itself is not deterministic, that would seem to imply there is something more than purely a material aspect to reality. What is that extra causal element in reality and how does it square with a materialist understanding of the universe?
On the other hand, if you are saying the universe is deterministic in itself but we can never measure it well enough for it to divulge its secrets, I am still left wondering how do you know? No matter how complex the system, no matter how small the measurement required, if the universe obeys reliable laws, then in principle its trajectory should be discoverable. It is simply a matter of time and progress.
Plus my very rudimentary understanding of chaos versus classical mechanics suggests there is a problem with your suggestion that uncertainty at a micro-level due to chaos theory is multiplied as you go up. As I understand it, classical mechanics largely "works" precisely because this chaotic feature of reality is not multiplied up the scale, but tends to be cancelled out at the macro-level. The macro level at which human beings exist and function.
I still think a purely materialist conception of reality, given a progressive accumulation of information, inevitably proves future resurrection.
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HOUSE, M.D., Jehovah's Witnesses, and '75
by compound complex inseason 7, episode 18: "the dig".
house picks up "thirteen" -- dr. remy hadley -- upon her release from prison.
she asks him to take her to a certain location in order to take care of a personal matter.
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slimboyfat
Cool, and once again interesting that "worldly" people have a more accurate and realistic picture of JW history than JWs themselves.
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slimboyfat
if there is such a thing as a redeeming consequence for this experiment, is that in 4 years, the pendulum will swing ( i think) completely the other way.
That was the theory when Hitler took power. And I guess the pendulum did swing back to liberal democracy in Germany - 12 years later and tens of millions dead.
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slimboyfat
Part of a wee Scottish poem especially for today by Lorna Wallace:
America, aw whit ye dain?!
How could ye choose a clueless wain
Ti lead yir country? Who wid trust
A man sae vile?!
A racist, sexist eedjit
Wi a shite hairstyle?
Yet lo, ye votit (michty me!)
Ti hawn’ this walloper the key
Ti pow’r supreme, ti stert his hateful,
Cruel regime.
A cling ti hope that this is aw
Jist wan bad dream.
But naw, the nightmare has come true,
A curse upon rid, white an’ blue,
An’ those who cast oot Bernie
Must feel sitch regret
Fur thinkin’ Mrs. Clinton
Was a safer bet.
So noo we wait ti see unfold
Division an’ intolerance, cold;
A pois’nous bigotry untold
Since Hitler’s rule
As the free world’s hopes an’ dreams
Lie with this fool.
Alas, complainin’ wullnae change
The fact this diddy has free range
Ti ride roughshod ow’r human beings
That fall outside
The cretinous ideals borne of
His ugly pride.
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Why the resurrection must be true
by slimboyfat inokay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
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slimboyfat
Vidiot I elsewhere argued that JWs will create Jehovah at some future time and effect their own salvation. This is the sacred secret, it's salvation but not as we know it.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/255532/true-meaning-jehovah-overlapping-generation-revealed
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Why the resurrection must be true
by slimboyfat inokay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
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slimboyfat
...and then "resurrecting" all the worst WT leaders and forcing them to see how mind-f**kingly wrong they turned out to be.
In this scenario the WT leader has been resurrected into a world in which human civilisation is so advanced that presumably, not only has he been resurrected, but problems of illness, scarcity, and even death have been conquered. And in this scenario you will inform him that he was wrong about the future? Ironically, don't you think he might turn around and tell you he was right!
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Why the resurrection must be true
by slimboyfat inokay i was thinking about it.
and it is a transhumanist argument and nothing new, i do realise that before anyone points it out.
but it struck me afresh today that the resurrection must happen.. firstly, to state the obvious, a rational materialist conception of reality seems to exclude resurrection.
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slimboyfat
The longer you wait, the more distant into the past, the more diluted any information gets.
Processes of information retrieval that are already feasible show that the rate of recovery is much quicker than degradation. For example the continents are still changing position, But the science of plate tectonics advances so quickly that the information "lost" between the development of techniques to trace the past movement of the continents is so negligible as to be non-existent.
DNA is also subject to degradation over time, but advances in technology are so much quicker than the loss of information that old murders can be solved, and the de-extinction of long dead species is now considered feasible.
If such seeming science fiction examples of information retrieval is possible, even today. Then it would seem to follow that, given enough progress, the material composition of the universe itself will inevitably be quantified. At which point, if the materialist conception of reality is correct, not only is resurrection feasible, it is inevitable.