Posts by slimboyfat

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Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

slimboyfat

I have found the adds to be very useful. It helped me book my next holiday.

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something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

slimboyfat

Pertinent here is the counsel: “Do not reveal the confidential talk of another.” (Proverbs 25:9) Experience suggests that this may be one of the most widely violated requirements among elders.

Bingo! I know a brother who pulls out that quote whenever personal issues and elders are mentioned. Can't trust the elders - it says so in the Watchtower!

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Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

by StephaneLaliberte in

hey simon, .

the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

slimboyfat

LadyLee takes over. Then it's Ninja, then it's me.

If we're all on the same bus at the same time it goes to the Governing Body. If they're all dead and/or there is a nuclear winter it goes to Cedars as a last resort.

Glad to clarify.

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"Confidentiality" of Elders!

by stuckinarut2 in

something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

slimboyfat

I'd love to find it. But the brother who quotes it is busy shunning me! And I don't know where it is.

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

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message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

slimboyfat

Well I respect you trying to put things right DS!

Whoever the owner is I can only imagine he has some sort of grievance against the members. Or he just thinks they were a bloody nuisance. You don't treat people like that if you regard them well do you? At least I'd like to think so.

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

jw
friends

message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

slimboyfat

"I have to respect that."

Why? I wouldn't respect it. "Respect" it in the sense that there's nothing you can do to stop it I suppose. Not respect it in the sense that it's in any way a reasonable way to treat people.

Sure members ought to be grateful to owners of forums for creating and running them. But forum owners should also be grateful to ordinary members for the content they provide. The owners may have lost interest in the forum now. But presumably when it began they were interested. And they relied on ordinary members to get it off the ground. What gratitude have they shown for that initial support? Closing the forum without warning may technically be the prerogative of the owners, but it also shows disrespect or contempt. So right back at them.

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Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

by punkofnice in

by invite only!.

my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

slimboyfat

"Please Jehovah bless this your precious real estate. May its value ever increase. May we continue to pay the debts incurred long after their time, just as we have been told they have been forgiven. Lead us not to neglect our donations. Help us shun those who would inherit of our relations. We are truly storing treasures in heaven. For JW.org is the glory, for ever and ever. In Jesus name, amen."

"Amen."

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Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

by punkofnice in

by invite only!.

my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

slimboyfat

Yeah it's a weird idea for a religion that doesn't really believe in sacred spaces as such.

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Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

by punkofnice in

by invite only!.

my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

slimboyfat

Do you need a ticket? If you turn up would they turn you away?

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"Confidentiality" of Elders!

by stuckinarut2 in

something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

slimboyfat

There was an interesting WT from the 1980s or 1990s that made an unwitting admission along the lines, "some elders have not kept confidentiality as they should". I know a brother who quoted this WT frequently and used it as a justification for not telling elders any personal information. He would say, "it's not me saying it, the Watchtower says elders can't be trusted with private information".