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  Simon: What happens when you can no longer support this site?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

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  hey simon, .

  the recent closure of jwr made me realize that this site may not be eternal as well.

  a great deal of people attach a lot of importance to xjw communities and yours is the best.

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  slimboyfat

  LadyLee takes over. Then it's Ninja, then it's me.

  If we're all on the same bus at the same time it goes to the Governing Body. If they're all dead and/or there is a nuclear winter it goes to Cedars as a last resort.

  Glad to clarify.
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  "Confidentiality" of Elders!

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. experiences

  something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

  yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

  so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

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  I'd love to find it. But the brother who quotes it is busy shunning me! And I don't know where it is.
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  Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

  first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

  i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

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  slimboyfat

  Well I respect you trying to put things right DS!

  Whoever the owner is I can only imagine he has some sort of grievance against the members. Or he just thinks they were a bloody nuisance. You don't treat people like that if you regard them well do you? At least I'd like to think so.
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  Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

  first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

  i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

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  "I have to respect that."

  Why? I wouldn't respect it. "Respect" it in the sense that there's nothing you can do to stop it I suppose. Not respect it in the sense that it's in any way a reasonable way to treat people.

  Sure members ought to be grateful to owners of forums for creating and running them. But forum owners should also be grateful to ordinary members for the content they provide. The owners may have lost interest in the forum now. But presumably when it began they were interested. And they relied on ordinary members to get it off the ground. What gratitude have they shown for that initial support? Closing the forum without warning may technically be the prerogative of the owners, but it also shows disrespect or contempt. So right back at them.
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  Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  by invite only!.

  my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

  so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

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  "Please Jehovah bless this your precious real estate. May its value ever increase. May we continue to pay the debts incurred long after their time, just as we have been told they have been forgiven. Lead us not to neglect our donations. Help us shun those who would inherit of our relations. We are truly storing treasures in heaven. For JW.org is the glory, for ever and ever. In Jesus name, amen."

  "Amen."
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  Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  by invite only!.

  my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

  so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

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  slimboyfat

  Yeah it's a weird idea for a religion that doesn't really believe in sacred spaces as such.
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  Kingdom Hall Dedication this Saturday

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
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  by invite only!.

  my jw spy tells me that this is in st paul's road, peterborough.. as far as i can tell, he tells me some corporation bully boy is coming over from bethel.

  so, the local jws have been tasked to clean it so it's fit for this visiting dignitary.. of course there are only a certain amount of invites available and nepotism rules.

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  slimboyfat

  Do you need a ticket? If you turn up would they turn you away?
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  "Confidentiality" of Elders!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  something struck me the other day.. elders are told to maintain confidentiality with regard to the details of judicial cases or congregation "discipline" in an attempt to dignify individuals etc.. this is even the case for known child abusers!.

  yet, if they suspect someone of being an "apostate", for instance being a member on this forum, they will spread such information far and wide, through the witness "grape vine" to congregations miles away (or even in other countries).

  so, does that mean they place more importance on "apostasy" rather than child abuse?.

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  slimboyfat

  There was an interesting WT from the 1980s or 1990s that made an unwitting admission along the lines, "some elders have not kept confidentiality as they should". I know a brother who quoted this WT frequently and used it as a justification for not telling elders any personal information. He would say, "it's not me saying it, the Watchtower says elders can't be trusted with private information".
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  How to wind up a JW

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tell him that jesus probably didn't get married or it would have mentioned it in the bible, but at the same time we can't be 100% sure he didn't get married because it doesn't specifically say he didn't get married.

  stand back watch fireworks.. i thought it was a pretty reasonable thing to say.

  pop.

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  slimboyfat

  Reminds me of this excellent poem by Stevie Smith:

  Was He Married?

  Was he married, did he try

  To support as he grew less fond of them

  Wife and family?

  No,

  He never suffered such a blow.

  Did he feel pointless, feeble and distrait,

  Unwanted by everyone and in the way?

  From his cradle he was purposeful,

  His bent strong and his mind full.

  Did he love people very much

  Yet find them die one day?

  He did not love in the human way.

  Did he ask how long it would go on,

  Wonder if Death could be counted on for an end?

  He did not feel like this,

  He had a future of bliss.

  Did he never feel strong

  Pain for being wrong?

  He was not wrong, he was right,

  He suffered from others’, not his own, spite.

  But there is no suffering like having made a mistake
  

  Because of being of an inferior make.

  He was not inferior,

  He was superior.

  He knew then that power corrupts but some must govern?

  His thoughts were different.

  Did he lack friends? Worse,

  Think it was for his fault, not theirs?

  He did not lack friends,

  He had disciples he moulded to his ends.

  Did he feel over-handicapped sometimes, yet must draw even?

  How could he feel like this? He was the King of Heaven.

  ...find a sudden brightness one day in everything

  Because a mood had been conquered, or a sin?

  I tell you, he did not sin.

  Do only human beings suffer from the irritation

  I have mentioned? learn too that being comical

  Does not ameliorate the desperation?

  Only human beings feel this,

  It is because they are so mixed.

  All human beings should have a medal,

  A god cannot carry it, he is not able.

  A god is Man’s doll, you ass,

  He makes him up like this on purpose.

  He might have made him up worse.

  He often has, in the past.

  To choose a god of love, as he did and does,

  Is a little move then?

  Yes, it is.

  A larger one will be when men

  Love love and hate hate but do not deify them?

  It will be a larger one.
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  Life of Brian

  by berrygerry in

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  i was a younger dub at the time of this release, and stopped watching this movie near its beginning, when john cleese was stoned with the huge rock for saying jehovah.. this was despite having been (and continuing to be) a major john cleese (and monty python) fan.. any fans of this film?.

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  slimboyfat

  I never understood that joke.