jws have their own terminology.
it's a characteristic of a cult.
here's a few: "new system", the friends" and the "body".......can you think of more?
Oh Yes, remember the expression "BACK CALL"
I do! In fact, my claim to fame was that the Foster's Freeze on Fletcher Dr. in L.A. was called "XJW4EVR's back call," at least until it became obvious that I faded. Judicial Committee, B.A. (bad attitude or bad association), reproach on Jehovah's organization.
if it was proven that jesus, in fact, has a bloodline.
what do you think this will do to religions?
and is it at all possible to prove that mary magdalene and jesus had an intimate relationship?
There are lots of facts in the Da Vinci Code. ; Such as:
- The Mona Lisa is in the Louvre Museum.
- Leonardo Da Vinci was once a famous ;painter.
- Constantine was once emperor of Rome.
- There are chateaus in France.
- Isaac Newton is buried at Westminster Abbey.
- There were books written about Jesus.
- There was once a Spanish Inquisition.
- The Catholic Church has been around for centuries.
I could probably add a few dozen more.
if it was proven that jesus, in fact, has a bloodline.
what do you think this will do to religions?
and is it at all possible to prove that mary magdalene and jesus had an intimate relationship?
A nice peice of fiction with a few facts most of us didn't have any knowledge about until now.
Just curious since I read the book though I have yet to see the movie. To what "facts" are you referring to?
if it was proven that jesus, in fact, has a bloodline.
what do you think this will do to religions?
and is it at all possible to prove that mary magdalene and jesus had an intimate relationship?
I don't know who Dan Brown is/was I was refering to Jewish tradition. ;My only point was that the Bible does not say Jesus was or wasn't married. So it should not be an issue. Some may believe he was and some may believe he was not. We should not divide over this issuse. To insist on one ;belief or the other ;when the Bible does not say so, anounts to legalism which is one of the reasons many of us left the Org.
You used terminology that I have only heard come from Dan Brown. If you don't know who Dan Brown is I would have to question your sincerity or your grasp on current events. Dan Brown is the author of The DaVinci Code. I find it odd that people use his terminology, yet when called out on this fact they will quuickly disavow any knowledge of Dan Brown, but I digress.
I also posted Scripture in which, Paul the leading sculpter of Christian theology, had an open door to affirm Jesus' status as married yet he did not. Rather he cites Peter as the example of a married apostle.
While I do not "insist" that Jesus' marital status to be one way or another, it seems evident to me that no proof for Jesus being married exists. A point, that is aggreed upon by conservative Christian scholar Darrell Bock & liberal Christian scholar John Domenic Crossan.
So it doesn't appear that legalism is the issue you are raging against. Perhaps it is something else?
if it was proven that jesus, in fact, has a bloodline.
what do you think this will do to religions?
and is it at all possible to prove that mary magdalene and jesus had an intimate relationship?
It was "expected" for a Jew to marry and have children. Just as it was "expected" for a son to do the same work as the father, and nowhere does the bible say Jesus was or was not a carpenter. It does say his father was. Nowhere does the bible say that Jesus was or was not married. If the Bible is the word of God and does not mention these things one way or another then it is not important. To say that if he was married or not would make a difference in Gods plans then an all knowing God would have said something about it. IMO
OK, folks, this is not really that hard. All you have to do is crack open the Bible. If Jesus was married then Paul when writing 1 Cor. 9:5 would have said that he had the right marry as Jesus was married. However, he referred to Peter/Cephas', I don't recall which name Paul used, wife accompanying him in his travels.
Yes, Dan Brown does say the Jesus was "expected" to be married. Unfortunately, Dan Brown makes a number of claims, and most of them are factually and historically inaccurate.
if it was proven that jesus, in fact, has a bloodline.
what do you think this will do to religions?
and is it at all possible to prove that mary magdalene and jesus had an intimate relationship?
Dan Brown of course treats Christianity almost as if it was a thoroughgoing docetism....that the church fathers had to choose between the deity of Christ or the humanity of Christ. ; Has he never heard of the phrase "hypostatic union"?Neither have most JW's.
Neither have most Christians.
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x-men 3--the last stand
Blondie, I didn't figure you for an X-Men fan!
well... the 'fortune cookie' thread got me to thinking about all of the silly things that my mom (and the jws) did when i was growing up.. it has been a while, and so i know that i won't be able to remember all of them.. my mom refused to buy a soft drink named 'sprite' - as its' logo included a small impish-looking fella (a sprite) that wore a bottlecap for a hat.
she claimed it was deemunz.. my mom hesitated to buy fried chicken at a place named 'church's fried chicken', as she wasn't sure if the name meant 'religion', or was a person's last name.. my mom refused to shop at salvation army - cause it would be supporting another religion.. the folks at the local kingdom hall came down hard on my mom cause one of my sisters wore a cute little 'sailor's dress'... it had boat anchors, and other 'sailor' emblems on the buttons, that were considered 'militaristic' by the powers-that-be at the local kh.
(i'm not sure if my mom put on different buttons, or scrapped the dress entirely.
I was pretty fortunate, in that I had parents that had most of their senses.
Though my mom did buy into the Proctor & Gamble - Satan deal for a bit.
looking back, i realize the stigma attached to df'ed and da'ed people, its as if they're supposed to be there and not there at the same time.
they're supposed to be extremely unhappy and hopeless.
when you see a df'ed person everything in their life is supposed to be going wrong because "they dont have jehovah in their lives" and when theres a df'ed person who doesnt fit the category they're hated even more.. there's a df'ed person in my congregation, i remember years ago (before i started posting here) i used to absolutely detest the sight of this guy.
Proper ettiquette?
That would entale throwing yourself at the feet of the Elders and begging them to let you back into Jehooper's good graces before Armegeddon strikes.
Sorry, I grovel before no man.
when i was a witness, i was very arrogant in my life in thinking i was right in all things.
the right religion, the right bible, the right understanding and the right lifestyle.
when i left, it was not hard to shake this arrogance and i found at times i was the same person, only with a different "right" message and i annoyed my witness relatives as much as they annoying me.
how about... If you refer ;to cannabis smokers as "human debris", but you yourself may enjoy having a cuba libra
How about, the smoking of cannabis is illegal, and the drinking of rum, coke & a wedge of lime isn't? I have already had this conversation with my 16 year old.
Besides, I grew up with a number of pot smokers, and most of them are not, how shall we say, productive members of society. Please note the use of the word "most." However, this is off-topic.
In regards to my question: The fact that the poster would even post what he/she posted is indicative of arrogance. It assumes that someone else is interested in what the poster has to say. A bit arrogant don't you think?
