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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

  by frankiespeakin in

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  dolphman

  I don't mind the distraction. It is some heavy shit though.

  Those Tacoma dome conventions were great for checking out girls.
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  The problem with ecstatic religious experiences...

  by logansrun in

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  for skeptics, true believers and people like me.

  i have heard or read, on this forum and in other mediums, of people who claim to have had experiences that can only be described as "ecstatic, mystical, spiritual, supernatural" etc.

  they all claim that the experience was real, in fact, more real than reality itself.

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  dolphman

  A good article on this can be found here:

  http://spirituality.indiatimes.com/articleshow/498605.cms

  The issue comes down to this, many are the names and paths but ultimately it all leads to one destination. The problem is that god and divinity is formless, but for it to be measured by humans, i.e. understood, it has to take some kind of form. Be it a name, a creature. But in and of itself it is formless. But for a human mind to begin to approach it, it needs to be something tangible.

  That's why there are so many different gods and teachings. But at their very cores, they are for the most part teaching the same thing.

  What the experiment should be based on is if there is a metaphysical world at all, not a particulair one.

  As far as mystical experiences go, 90% of them are probably related to mental disorders. But it all it takes is 1% of them to be real and you have to realize something is at work outside our normal perception.

  One thing to ponder, the word "Human" is Sanskrit in origin. It literally means "God Thought". Maybe that's all we are.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

  by frankiespeakin in

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  dolphman

  The real "I" as in the scripture "I AM THAT I AM" as opposed to the way the ego thinks of itself as the "I".

  It's funny, that scripture isn't much different than the Sanskrit mantra "I AM THAT" (So Ham)
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

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  dolphman

  Princess,

  I did grow up in the area. Tacoma, Gig Harbor, Port Orchard, Bremerton, been to a kingdom hall in all those towns.

  Littletoe,

  You bring up the most important point. It's all about knowing yourself, seperating the "I" from the real "I" and finding out what that is. I'm still working on it. But that's really the point of everything, kundalini and otherwise.

  I do also want to say that I do believe/know that God exist. The great thing is it isn't what we think it was, i.e. "Jehovah". A domineering, destructive angry god that kills everyone.

  I can't say I've met it yet, but it's more of a supreme consciousness than anything, the origin of all consciousness and physical reality. I guess one part of it is the consciousness part, and the other part is the manifestation of it, such as creation, us. You can think of it as the male part being the consciousness and the female part as the creation part. Supposedly when a person becomes enlightened, they become a perfect combination of male and female qualities. Which emulates divinity itself. This is why Hindu gods all look like transvestites.

  I also think of God as a zero. A zero is nothing, yet it is complete. If you add it to another number, it becomes something. Like how a 1 becomes a 10. The paradox of 0 is that is nothing and something all at the same time. Which is what god is, I guess.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

  by frankiespeakin in

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  dolphman

  Were you on any drugs (pot, LSD) when the experience you refer to occurred? How long had it been since you imbibed in narcotics when the event took place?

  No. I haven't done LSD since I was 21. I'm turning 30 monday. I had a pot brownie about 11 months ago. When these events occured, and when they do occur, no drug use has occured.

  I'll forgive you on the Bush thing. Do you or have you had any schizophrenic tendencies? Did you make it clear to the psychologist that a family member has schizophrenia? And, did they actually refer you to a yoga instructor, or did you do that on your own?

  Thanks for forgiving me, remember, I'm not enlightened yet. I've never had any schizophrenic tendencies. I made it clear to the people at the hospital that my aunt was schizophrenic, and that's exactly why I had come there, because I thought I was becoming schizophrenic. It had been 3 days since the initial experience happened, and my symptoms by then were just crying and forming hand mudras. They said the crying wasn't related to schizophrenia. Because of the other things I described, they referred me to a psychotherapist who just happens to have a background in eastern philosophy. They figured maybe she could provide an explanation. They gave me no drugs and let me go within a few hours.

  To be brutally honest, that doesn't necessarily mean anything. There are millions of JWs who believe in many crazy things and they hold down a job. Some of the members of cult atrocities like Waco and Jonestown were doctors, lawyers and other well-educated, "together" people. That does not mean you didn't experience the kundalini awakening, but it by no means means that you are more credible than anyone else.

  You're absolutely right on that one.

  Had you ever read and/or spoken the mantras before you started to glossalate? It's always possible that you or your girlfriend "tweaked" what you said to fit the mantra, etc. That doesn't mean you're a liar, it's simply human nature to want to "fit" the experience in somehow (especially since you seem to have been very interested in this sort of thing to begin with).

  The only mantra I had ever heard of was the "OM" thing. People make fun of that in movies and stuff, so I had heard that before. But I never said that one. In fact, that one doesn't ever occur spontaneously at all. Maybe because it's the highest mantra, and I have reached that level of consciousness. The first night this all happened. The thing I said was "Sah Man". It came back "Shamen" in sanskrit when we googled it. Granted, it could mean a lot of things I guess. But when you consider the fact I was assuming yoga postures and hand gestures spontaneously as I was saying it, it lends it some credence that it was Indian in origin.. But it doesn't stop there. Then and since then, mantras such as "HAM" and "THAM" and "HRIM" and others will spontaneously utter themselves. HAM and THAM actually form the roots of the word HATHA, as in hatha yoga. In any case, sometimes whole sentences will come out, I'm assuming it's Sanskrit. Other times what I think is Hawaiin will come out. ALLAH has come out even. HU is a popular one. HU is the name the Sufis use for god, as well as others. I"ve never said JEHOVAH or YAHWEH. I guess the different names of god are all gateways to deeper levels of consciousness. You could speculate that my subconcious heard these words and saw these movements, maybe in movies or while watching Kung Fu as a kid. And then all of the sudden, they are triggered when I meditate.I for one though, don't think is it. Half these words I'm sure I've never heard before, and I don't think I could be that good at yoga without having taken some lessons.

  Again, forgive me, but there are plenty of people reading this who will say that it is "a lot of New Age BS."

  They can. I'm not trying to convert anyone. There are a lot of weirdos. Trust me, I've met them.

  Ah, I'm just jesting with you. I'm more open to this sort of thing than I used to be. I just wouldn't discount that there may be other factors involved that are of a more psychological origin. Did you see multiple counselors? What type of psychologist did you see? Did they give you ANY ideas that it might be glitches in the brain?

  I saw counselors at the hospital and the one I went and saw for about 4 weeks, until she said there was basically nothing to work on. I then began seeing a Hindu renunciate. The counselors at the hospital are the front line troops that deal with people coming into the ER. They were the staff psychiratrist that basically decide if your a real loon and get sent to the psych ward or if you just need general therapy. They then referred me to someone who charges 90 bucks an hour, so I'm assuming they were a professional. No drugs were ever given to me at any time. Ok, I tell you, as far as glitches to the brain go, if it is, it's a sight to behold. You should see it sometime. Personally, the things I say and do and their relation to specific symptoms mentioned to be of a kundalini origin are just to exact to be mere coincidences. If its just a brain fart, it's a loud one.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

  by frankiespeakin in

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  dolphman

  I should also point out that once a person reaches enlightenment after undergoing a kundalini awakening, all phenomena stops. Just like the others on this thread have said, the point of it all is to question and do inquiry. "Who am I"? Etc. Well after a kundalin awakening completes, you find out. And that's the end of it. No more phenomena.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

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  dolphman

  Smoked marijuana a lot when younger. Did do LSD once. Growing up a JW produced a lot of trauma, however I've never been on psychiatric meds. Oh, and my Aunt does have schizophrenia. Oh, and I voted for Bush 4 years ago.

  After reading the above info, here's a couple of things to consider:

  First, I do hold a day job at Microsoft. I also put myself through college and have been on my own since I was 17. I also directed an independent film. So, I hope this counts as evidence that I do have my shit together to some degree.

  Second, it's one thing to spaz out and mutter unintelligible jibberish. It's another when it correlates exactly to old buhddist and hindu tantric mantras and practices. THIS is what I think seperates the crazies from those undergoing a direct spiritual experience.

  Third, I spent some time after these intial experiences going to a counselor, to try and figure out their origin. I had no intention of having my life screwed up and going crazy. Needless to say I had to weed my way through a lot of New Age BS before stumbling upon the truth.

  Fourth, I'm not trying to do anything on this post besides shed some light on kundalini experiences, since I have experience in this area and their is a LOT of ignorance concerning it. I could care less about my experiences and often wish they had never happened.

  Oh, and if you know anyone, I mean anyone, who could scientifically document any of this, let me know. Lie detectors, brain scans, you name it. I've talked to the University of WA and some other research centers but get no response. They probably think I'm a quack.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

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  Yo princess

  Why would you highly recommend something that makes a person go mad?

  Re-read my post. I re-posted saying I meant to say NOT RECOMMENDING.

  Stick to running.
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  Signs of an Awakening Kandalini!!

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  logansrun,

  If my mother ever found out she would be TERRIFIED too. In fact, I think it could even kill her.

  Sometimes I wonder if this is why the WS purposely forbade JWs from meditating. I think they were afraid of people finding out the real truth.

  Hell, even I thought I was being attacked by a demon when it first started happening. I'm ashamed to admit it, but I logged onto the watchtowers website and contemplated calling up an elder. It really did a number on me.
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  But I highly recommend someone who'se simply interested in phenomena to seek out a kundalini awakening

  Whoops! I meant I recommend they DONT seek it out. Sorry.

  Also, I don't want to come across as an ass. I just think there is a lot of ignorance concerning Kundalini awakenings. If you really want to know more about them, do a google on it or go to www.kundalinisupport.com.

  There are books on it. It's mostly a hindu/yoga thing, but the Tantric Buhddist refer to it as well.

  It's not all new agey hearts and flowers shit.