Thanks blownaway! Just shared it to a friend.
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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses
by Incognito ini haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).
cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.
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Conditioned responses: Have you been conditioned to feel judged, or guilt etc that has spilled over into your exjw life?
by Diogenesister inthis youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
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BloodGUILT, they literally used the word for a lack of getting the message out. You know, because if Jehovah killed someone unnecessarily it would be our fault, not the fault of the all knowing mass murderer.
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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses
by Incognito ini haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).
cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.
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I think they only focused on one story because it's easier for people to connect to that, to follow this one person's journey, than to impact people with a bunch of stories in just one hour. That's nothing, especially when you have time spent on ads. They could always do more, and I'd have loved for them to bring out people that lost loved ones to the blood doctrine or whatever, but I feel like they got as much as they could out of one hour. They told one cohesive story front to back, and got viewers to connect to her.
I get it though. I could have envisioned a panel of abuse survivors or something, but sometimes it's so strong to stay focused.
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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses
by Incognito ini haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).
cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.
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dubstepped
An active JW will always find something wrong. There is none so blind as he who will not see.
People are reacting on Twitter, even non dubs comparing them to Scientologists. My wife told me some of the comments. I love it!
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A&E - Cults and Extreme Belief - Jehovah's Witnesses
by Incognito ini haven't seen this posted.. tuesday may 29, 2018 @ 10pm (new york time zone).
cults and extreme belief - jehovah's witnesses.
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Well done Romy and Barb! I'm so glad that she disassociated at the end. You could see the freedom in her spirit almost immediately. It was the best decision my wife and I ever made.
Oh, and you see Jehovah's loving organization there at the end. The cowards won't speak to her behind the gate, and the brother that took her letter couldn't be bothered to listen or give a hurting person a hug.
Fuck them all.
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Favourite Quirky / Low Budget / Non-Mainstream Movies
by Simon inso the recent topic about film franchises got me thinking.
sure, we all love the big budget, mainstream releases that are so successful they spawn never-ending (it sometimes seems) sequels.
we could watch marvel and star-wars movies for the rest of our lives (and we might just ...).. but y'know what i love?
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dubstepped
Can't get much quirkier than UHF by Weird AL. I haven't seen it in years, but it always made me laugh hard. There's no way the production quality of that had a huge budget.
The Abyss was a great movie. Like Morpheus said though, no so sure it was low budget. I forgot about that one.
I haven't watched a movie in many years and my knowledge is virtually nil. I'm not a movie person for the most part.
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Conditioned responses: Have you been conditioned to feel judged, or guilt etc that has spilled over into your exjw life?
by Diogenesister inthis youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
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And good for you for realizing where the brainwashing was headed and not going there.
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Conditioned responses: Have you been conditioned to feel judged, or guilt etc that has spilled over into your exjw life?
by Diogenesister inthis youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
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@SIAR2 - I'm blanking on her name, but I think the author does the podcast called Happier. I never read the book but I took her quiz and listened to some of her episodes on the different archetypes. She isn't trying to put anyone in a box either, that's why they're called tendencies and not absolutes. I liked how she gave credence to the fact that we likely have all of the four in different areas of life, but one tends to be more present.
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Conditioned responses: Have you been conditioned to feel judged, or guilt etc that has spilled over into your exjw life?
by Diogenesister inthis youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
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It's easy to only see our experience and our side of anything and to think we had it worse. If you want to discuss that start a thread and I'd be happy to do so. In the end I don't think any of it is necessarily more, just different.
My dad was an asshole with zero empathy. Not a "sensitive type of man" like I am more of, and even he felt guilt. So much so that he could not take us fishing on a Saturday morning ever because he'd feel guilt if he wasn't there to lead the group in service. That's just one example. But you don't have to have a certain emotional makeup to feel guilt.
As a kid I felt guilt when I had to lead a group of older and smarter women out in the ministry just because I was a guy. I had so many expectations on me as a brother to be an example, to give x amount of talks, to show progress, to "reach out", etc. Sometimes people think that because we brothers had power that somehow we had it easy. With great power comes great responsibility, not just responsibility in how it's used, but responsibility as in burden.
In the end, like I said, it's not a matter of who had it worse, we just had it different between the males and females. Women maybe had more familial pressure, men more congregational. It all sucked.
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Conditioned responses: Have you been conditioned to feel judged, or guilt etc that has spilled over into your exjw life?
by Diogenesister inthis youtuber, an exjw and psychologist, may be familiar to some of the old guard.. i'm posting for newer members really.
yet still, despite being out some time, it was a shock for me to realise that some of the crippling guilt i have felt over so much of my life, even long after being awake, was due to the dominant "conditioned response" i felt as a believer - guilt.. guilt that i could never do enough.
guilt that i was responsible for the life of anyone i didn't preach to...anyone i may have stumbled, anything i did that wasn't caring for the needs of others.. even my job i choose to fit in with trying to expunge the guilt i felt at not meeting the needs of others.
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@LHG - Are you saying that the women were made to feel guilty and not the men? Maybe I mistook what you said.
Anyway, absolutely. A life of "never being enough" is to live as a JW. I ended up suicidal thinking something must have been wrong with me because despite my best efforts I couldn't keep up with their expectations.
We all received those messages. It was constant. Do more, be more, give more.
There's a book out now called "The Four Tendencies" and I took the quiz and realized that rather than being a "questioner" I'm actually much more an "oblige". In our business we do great work for our clients but often at the expense of ourselves. I was conditioned not to say no. So guilt led me to do many things that I didn't want to do. We worked today and didn't have to, but we offered out of obligation and guilt.