^^^^ First lesson you gave them - how to negotiate, lol.
dubstepped
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@just fine- Congrats! I'm super jealous of your consulting gigs. I love small service businesses and love marketing and being a consultant for that is a dream of mine. I've just learned from forums and info products and not real world experience so I lack confidence. I've done well in our cleaning business but am more of an offline marketing guy specializing in under promising and over delivering to build fans that promote us as free salespeople. I'm not sure that translates.
Anyway, good for you for making a successful career for yourself!
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@truth_b_known - I've always thought that being a PI sounded like a really interesting career. Congrats on the impending retirement and new opportunities.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@pale.emperor - I definitely don't think that owning a business or being self-employed is for everyone, but here's something to think of regarding risk. You are essentially in business for yourself already. Don't believe me, try not showing up and see how well it goes, lol. You are in your own little business now with one client. All if your eggs are in one basket. Lose that and it's all gone.
My wife and I have 30 clients. If we lose one it isn't crushing. We just replace them, and we keep more clients than absolutely necessary. So from a risk perspective we are in a better place in some ways.
Now when you're starting out it can be scary. If you're already employed you could start something on the side if you had the circumstances to do so (harder with kids). Once the side gig was going strong and it felt like the boat was closer to the dock, so to speak, you could make the jump without the worry of falling in and getting wet.
Again though, it isn't for everyone. Figuring out what to do is just a small part of it. Making it work is tough. Lots of hard lessons learned, though theree are lots of courses online to help you start most businesses.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@scratchme - Sound like you are absolutely killing it. Well done! Sounds like you've had a unique path, especially as an exjw in the workplace.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@jwundubbed, I grew up poor too. I'm sorry you feel so hopeless aside from the pursuit of education and possibilities that it holds, but I'm glad that you do have that thing to look forward to in the future.
If you ever wanted ideas, perhaps people here could come up with ideas of things that you might be able to do with your limitations that could help, but I also realize that may be a long shot. Still, someone might know of something. I know that there are companies out there that have work at home opportunities that are legitimate, like providing customer service over the phone, though I don't know how hard it is to get in with those companies or what you've tried already.
I like that you aren't beating yourself up for choices that were made and that you realize that you did the best you could at each point where you had to. That's true of most of it, and beating ourselves up wouldn't do any good anyway.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
I think that's great LUHE. Being paid to learn and research seems like a fascinating life. A professional student of sorts. We clean for some people that work in research at the local university and they seem very happy with it. Well, they're professors, but they do research, I may not know exactly what they do but it seems like a good life for them.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
Hi Della!
So, what does it look like when one hits that wall of exhaustion and ends up in the hospital? I've been burning way too brightly myself and have closed in on burnout. Well, I've felt burned out, but I don't know what that limit is where it becomes too much. I know that I've felt ill from working so much, and I know that on many weekends I just crash and burn instead of having any energy to go have fun or anything.
Look at you, all going back to school and pursuing what you want as well. I think I can identify with some of what you're feeling. For a certainty I'd have a hard time picking just one thing to major in. I want to learn about so many things, but also have to face harsh realities regarding time, energy, money, and focus.
I've been thinking about what you said about the future looking blank for you. While I don't feel that way myself, I think I can grasp that. For me the future looks like a projection of the present, but that's scary in it's own way because I don't want to live the same days over and over again. For you it sounds like you are somewhat directionless, not really sure what the future holds, and in contrast with a future doom and then a panda paradise that we all had painted for us during our entire lives as JWs, it must be a very strange view of the future.
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Let's talk business ...
by dubstepped ini am thinking that this could be an interesting topic.
most of us never had a chance to go to college, many of us were involved in various service industries like cleaning and such, and we have had some limitations placed on us.
so i thought it might be interested to see what has worked for people, what hasn't, what the progression has been, where people went wrong and where they got it right.
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dubstepped
@LUHE - Congrats on finally pursuing the education that you want. I think that's great. Do you have an end game in mind with it, something that you want to pursue as a career application of this education?
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Another marriage bites the dust ...
by EdenOne in... and this time it was mine.. mrs. eden decided to part ways and leave home, and so our 25 year long partnership is now dissolving.
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just another colateral damage in a long list of colateral damages from being raised in the "truth".
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dubstepped
I'm so sorry for you both. The process of awakening and then trying to find yourself once you're out of the cult, trying to process it all, then trying to find each other in the middle of it all is very tough. We've had some rough times of our own even recently as we're trying to figure out a life that starts anew near 40 with so much baggage from the past. Everyone has to do what's best for them individually. We've given each other the freedom to figure out what that means and if we have to part at some point then we will as friends. So far that's not what either of us wants, but you never know, and we aren't locked into a cult of many or a cult of each other anymore, so we have to find our relationship in freedom now, and that means that sometimes choices could be made that hurt. I'm so sorry you got hurt in this. You alluded to this fact though, and that is that there's a yin and yang to everything. Maybe this turns out to be a good thing for you both. You might as well work toward that instead of hanging your head and expecting life to be horrible, even though it hurts. Life's too short to hope for anything less.