OMG! By far the funniest anecdote I have thus far read on this board. That sad thing is that it's probably only a slight embellishment of what actually happened.
You really should write more!
Corvin
Posts by Corvin
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14HELP!God get me out of here!PART2 [dedicated to gay people with thanx]
by Sparks into be read by any-one,but especially dedicated to the gay people that kindly read part one in good faith;many thanxxx`s to you all.
[if you haven`t read part one then basically it was me taking the piss-out of myself,being a world class homophobe.well who else can you take the piss-out of in these day`s of political correctness..apart from yourself...!?!
] many thanxxx to every-one that replied to part one;sorry i didn`t answer you sooner,but i`ve been off-line for a couple of days with a huge technical problem with my computer;(since writing about being stuck in a gay`s paradise and my homophobic reactions,my computer keeps going down on me.....but we`re still good friends).i will answer all your posts back over on part one now, i wrote this while off-line.okay lets start:- .
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"Coming clean" about bay six for me!
by baysixforme infirstly i would like to thank all that responded to my most recent post.
i received a lot of encouragement from your kind words and thoughts.. however, i must let you all know that that was not my first post as many of you assummed.
i have in fact posted here on many occasions, aka bay64me and bay-six-for-me.
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Corvin
There are valid reasons why I seemingly broke the rules to this board but I never had the intention of doing so
Really? Was there a rule about that? Whoops! I am a violator as well.
I use to be Hunyadi, a still in the closet apostate of sorts. Then I came out and wanted EVERYONE to know who I am, so I chose a new sign name, my real name to celebrate.
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Corvin
Quit letting an organization bring you down. Is this not what Satan would want? The untruths have caused alot of people to lose their faith in everything under the sun. It is time to gather your senses and rebuild your faith. This is accomplished by relying completely in Jehovah. He will deliver you..........have a little faith, let it go.
For most of us Brown, coming to this forum is just one aspect of not "letting an organization get us down".
You are a bit ambiguous with you post "The untruths(?) have caused alot of people to lose their faith in everything under the sun"? What "untruths" are you speaking of?
"It is time to gather your senses and rebuild your faith?" Our faith in what or whom? God? The organization of Jehovah's Witnesses?
"This is accomplished by relying completely in Jehovah. He will deliver you..........have a little faith, let it go". Thanks Mr. Helper.
By the way . . . "forgive" who or what?
Kind Regards,
Corvin
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Corvin
"forgiveness is for you often - not the forgiven - let it go and move on"
Is that from a WT article? A Bible passage? Hmm . . . sounds alot like the empty teachings and philosophies of men . . .
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Good Things Do Happen!
by Undecided ini went to my mail box to get the mail.
usually i just get advertisements and bills.
today was a surprise, i got three checks from a laboratory that had processed some blood test for my physical several months ago.
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Corvin
Yayyyyyy! That IS a good day!
and LOL @ schizzzzzz!
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Help With Pics Please
by Corvin inok, this might have been addressed in another thread or two, but i missed it.. .
how do you insert pics into the post itself without attaching it?.
corivn.
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Corvin
Thanks Lady Lee!
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Help With Pics Please
by Corvin inok, this might have been addressed in another thread or two, but i missed it.. .
how do you insert pics into the post itself without attaching it?.
corivn.
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Corvin
OK, this might have been addressed in another thread or two, but I missed it.
How do you insert pics into the post itself without attaching it?
Corivn
I already know how to do this: but how do I put a pic directly in the body of my post like I see others doing?
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Apostates are to be "HATED"!
by gumby infor some....this is old news.
since so many new ones have came here, then perhaps they might enjoy something the organisation has taught they might not be aware of.. watchtower 1961 july 15 p.420 a time and place for everything .
jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but god's word also says to "hate what is bad.
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Corvin
If they sincerely mean hate as in to avoid, then I think they have good intentions
The thing is; the poor choice of words, as in this case, are chosen deliberately to create a chasm between present and former believers, obviously to stop those still in the org from hearing some interesting "truth" and "new Light" from those who left the org or were cast out.
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Apostates are to be "HATED"!
by gumby infor some....this is old news.
since so many new ones have came here, then perhaps they might enjoy something the organisation has taught they might not be aware of.. watchtower 1961 july 15 p.420 a time and place for everything .
jesus encouraged his followers to love their enemies, but god's word also says to "hate what is bad.
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Corvin
Garybus, good stuff!
Here is some stuff that contradicts the WT's view on hate:
*** it-1 p. 726 Enemy ***What is to be the Christian?s attitude toward fellow humans who make themselves his enemies? Jesus counseled: "Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you." (Lu 6:27, 28) He explained: "You heard that it was said [not in the Bible, but in tradition], ?You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.? However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you." (Mt 5:43, 44)
*** w53 8/1 p. 479 Questions from Readers ***
? Where do we find the command to "hate thine enemy", as expressed at Matthew 5:43??A. H., England.It was in the sermon on the mount that Jesus stated: "You heard that it was said: ?You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.? However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those persecuting you; that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous."?Matt. 5:43-45, NW.
Jesus said the Jews had heard, "You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy," but he did not say they had heard all that from the Law of Moses. The first part, about loving your neighbor, was a part of the Law. (Lev. 19:18) But the second part, about hating your enemy, was not. It really was contrary to the Law, which said: "If you chance upon your enemy?s ox or ass going astray, you must be sure to take it home to him. If you see the ass of one who hates you lying prostrate under its load, you must refrain from deserting him; you must be sure to help him get it up." (Ex. 23:4, 5, AT) The Hebrew Scriptures forbade any feeling of malicious joy when an enemy met with disaster, and even commanded that he be assisted when in trouble: "If your enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink."?Job 31:29; Prov. 24:17; 25:21, AT.
The part about hating your enemy was something added by the teachers of tradition, and it was this addition that made void God?s Word that Jesus condemned. Since they were told to love their neighbors, the Jewish teachers inferred that in contrast they were to hate their enemies. To them "friend" or "neighbor" meant one of the Jewish race, and all others they considered natural enemies. To rout this false idea from one of the learned scribes or lawyers of his day Jesus used an illustration. He told of a man that had been robbed, stripped, beaten and left half-dead. Both a Jewish priest and a Levite by-passed this sufferer, but a despised Samaritan came along, felt pity, tended to his wounds, and took him to an inn and paid for his further care. This non-Jewish Samaritan was then identified as the real neighbor of the injured man, and not the Jewish priest and Levite. (Luke 10:25-37, NW) But in view of the traditional understanding of "neighbor" as being limited to a fellow Jew and in view of their known hatred and enmity relative to Gentiles, it is not difficult to see why they were led to add "and hate your enemy" to the divine law "You must love your neighbor".
So Jesus corrected them and showed that they were to love not only their neighbors but also their enemies. The word "love" (Greek, agape) here used means a moral or social love, a love based on the deliberate assent of the will as a matter of principle, duty and propriety. It is a matter of doing what is right, as reasoned from the head, rather than the love (Greek, philéo) that means a sentimental, personal attachment and affection, as is usually thought of as coming from the heart. As a matter of following right principles we will show this moral love to all men, even to those who may persecute us personally. We will allow no personal enmities to make us abandon love or conduct based on right principles, but will follow such with all men. We will even pray that those who persecute us in ignorance may have their eyes opened to see the truth concerning Jehovah?s new world.
*** w58 7/15 p. 425 Hate Evil, Not People ***If Jehovah is long-suffering toward these enemies of his, why should not we be?
The "hating people who disagree with WT doctrine" thing is not Scriptural and the WTBTS admits it in their publications. Yes, they flip flop with regards to the love-hate thing and contradict themselves constantly.
The enemies of God are those who "hate" God. Those who are against Him. I am not, and neither are most of the folks I know on this board, against God himself . . . just against the lies and deception of a man-made organization claiming to be of God. That disqualifies most of us from being hated by those who call themselves "God's Chosen".
Corvin
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Should We Form A Committee?
by Englishman indansk recently asked us to write and protest about the erection of a kh in bury, lancashire.. many of us did just that and the newspaper concerened emailed most of us asking for permission to publish our comments in it's weekly issue.. it was also suggested that maybe we could also write to df'ing committees to protest at their actions.. so, we're wondering, should we form some sort of committee to co-ordinate operations such as this on an ongoing basis?.
if we did that, who would be interested in playing an active part?.
any suggestions as to how such an operation should be run?.
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Corvin
I am also very busy with family and work, however, I believe this is a good and important cause. Therefore, I will make time to support posative action. Please allow me to help in anyway I can.
Sincerely,
Corvin