I'm not sure why it isn't showing my name (maybe it only looks like this in my browser.) But that last post is from me, amac.
Edited by - amac on 6 September 2002 15:58:28
Posts by amac
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75WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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amac
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If you were ever a JW, you know there is a HUGE hole in your argument. JWs do not believe that they or any human will be part of that executing force at Armaggedon. JWs believe that is up to Jehovah and simply pray and try to be worthy of his salvation during their believed destructive period. I think you would be hard pressed to find a single JW that thinks they will be helping Jah, JC and the angels out at Armageddon. And even if you do, it would be far from even a noticable minority, let alone a majority.
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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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amac
JT -
I fully agree with your post. But as you stated, it would be a minority that would do so in the JW faith. This would be the same and probably even more so in any other religion (especially those that do not promote pacifism.) So I guess the technical answer to the thread topic, WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD, would be yes. But so would a Mormon, Methodist, Baptist, Catholic, etc. The idea that others have insinuated that a majority of JWs would go along with this is ridiculous. To switch an entire mob mentality that has been trained up on pacifism to that of aggression is very far fetched.
On a side note, in my reference to those who need to take college classes, I was not referring to the whole board in general, but instead, those that were ganging up on me about JWs not being pacifists.
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Sexual Offender in my hall.
by PandaJ inso my wife calls me and says, "my mom told me there is a sexual offender in our hall, but she won't tell me who!".
i have a small child, so i obviously want to know.
her mom tells her a website where she can search for sexual offenders, www.criminalfiles.info.
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amac
Is he a registered sex offender? I'm not sure the different laws for different states, but if he has to register than it is no secret and should not be kept one by the congregation.
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ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?
by minimus inone thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.
in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?
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amac
Minimus -
I am in full agreement with your post. Thanks for the balanced view.
OUTLAW -
You miserable, big booger. I propose that you are the troll since you have once again come on to a thread without adding any comments to the topic, but instead your sole purpose is to make a personal attack on me.
Go away troll!
Just because you are a cookie cutter apostate and you can gather up support from like minded drones who have nothing of substance to add does not relieve you from the responsibility of supporting your retarded statements with rational reasoning. You are useless to this website besides summarizing and repeating what others have said. I try and promote discussion on this discussion board and you and like minded folks just want to attack me in an attempt to make this an In Agreement With US Board. You are the troll.
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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???
by minimus ini've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.
do you believe this?
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amac
Oh my goodness! You people are brainwashed by your own "apostasy." Anyone who denies the claim that JWs are pacifists are fools and can't think outside of their emotions about the WT.
Before you throw in your lame arguments, please look the word up in the dictionary. Then tell me when the JWs have ever used violence or war to resolve a dispute or difference in belief. And don't bother trying to twist their use of the blood doctrine because that is neither violent or a means to resolve any dispute. That is simply a stupid rule they have if you want to be a member of their club.
You lot need to go take some college classes on Social and Religous Studies.
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ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?
by minimus inone thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.
in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?
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amac
because of your immediate, shallow minded personal attacks when ever it is that someone may have struck a nerve.
You addressed me by stating that I have no idea what I was talking about and then failed to state an argument or rebuttal of your own. You then make a sweeping statement about 6 million people and you have the nerve to say I am making shallow minded personal attacks? LOL!
And by the way...what in the world does this mean...
P.S. Amac Y/K, Amac Y/N is there a little similarity there? Uh Oh ! I think there is.......
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ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?
by minimus inone thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.
in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?
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amac
Disengaged -
I don't need to taste night dirt from every septic tank to know it's all bad. Are you a dub?
I was raised a JW and am now Agnostic. You, on the other hand, sound more like a JW using general, one size fits all, illustrations to defend your undefendable position. Did you also know that it only takes one drop of poison to contaminate an entire glass of pure water??? Geez...
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Since this thread is entitled "ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?" I should have prefaced my posts with my opinion. Are they more honest than other collectives that stress the importance of honesty, such as other religous groups? No. Are they more honest than the rest of the world's entire population? Probably, because as a collective, they are taught to be honest, whereas in the entire population there are plenty of people with less scruples than you and I. You can find them in prison cells and running large corporations like Enron & WorldCom.
My main point in posting on this thread was to refute the claims of those who have posted to the other extreme, saying that not only are JWs not more honest, but as a group they are liars, cheaters, hypocrites, etc.
Your comments were obvious generalizations and posted under a thread like this seemed to insinuate that these were common actions among JWs. You yourself admit that these are generalizations (or case studies.)
You closed with:
Rather, they appear to have the same level of honesty as anyone else in any other religion.
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ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?
by minimus inone thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.
in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?
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Disengaged -
we have no time to spend with all of them and come to any conclusions.
My point exactly. Don't try to come to a conclusion based on your limited experiences. Realize that there is a little more to the world and to people than your narrow view.
The ones I have spent time with broad brush the rest .(In my opinion) Sorry Amac you lose.
No, I am sorry, but you lose. With an attitude like that you will never learn anything outside of what you "think" you should know. You have the same generalizing attitude as racists, bigots and all sort of unsavory characters. A racist says "I have spent time with 5 Mexicans and they are all lying thieves. So the ones I spent time with broad brush the rest (in my opinion.)" You would be a fool to hold on to thinking like this. Please reexamine your statement and see if that truly is the view you want to continue holding. If so, sorry Dis, you lose.
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why are J.W.'s allowed to generalize everybody that is not a dub as an apostate and part of Satan's world?????
Who said they were allowed? I think they are just as stupid for doing so. And, in effect, you have confirmed my initial post about people on this thread acting the same way as some JWs. Like momma always says, just because they do it doesn't make it alright for you to do it.
Applying double standards as usual????
Please show me where I have exposed my double standards. When have I ever labelled a group (at least larger than 100 people) as being liars, cheats, hypocrites, etc, etc.
Dismembered -
Any relation to Disengaged?
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ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?
by minimus inone thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.
in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?
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amac
I love it! More empty accusations...
Jdubs are the biggest bunch of hypocrites, liars cheaters, fakers..........the list goes on.
Please explain how you have come to this conclusion about an entire group of people. But first, remember that a personal experience about how you were cheated by an elder in your hall will not cut it for a generalization for a group of 6 million. And also, please provide relevant proof...in other words, for them to be the "biggest bunch" these evil actions must be proven to be more consistent and evil than the average joe, otherwise they would be just as much liars, cheaters, fakers as the rest of us.