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  WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

  by minimus in

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  i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

  do you believe this?

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  I respectfully disagree. Pacifism is a mindset that is not easily changed to the other extreme of aggression. They would have an easier task of telling JWs that they now believe in the Trinity, hellfire, the immortal soul, and that they would now worship Mary the mother of God. They would lose just about every JW.
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  ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?

  by minimus in

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  one thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.

  in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?

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  Amac

  You have little, to no idea what you are talking about. Must be you are a 100% newbie.

  I'm stumped. How can I argue with that? What an intellect! By the way, what am I a newbie at?
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  WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

  do you believe this?

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  amac

  The JWs have evolved as a truly pacifist organization. I think it ridiculous to assume that the WT could suddenly change that mindset in their followers. It would take years of conditioning to change them in this way.
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  Is it possible to fall out of love....and married?

  by Lost Diamond in

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  i would like to know what your opinions are and i would really appreciate some input.. i have been re-married for two years, but along the way there has been some deep hurts, although no infidelity.

  he claims that he loves me, but i do not feel the same way for him as i once did.

  i was married to a verbally abusive husband for 11 yrs, and i'm wondering if maybe i just wasn't ready to remarry so soon, and the hurt my current husband has caused has rubbed some old wounds alittle too often.. he has done some emotionally hurtful things to me in which i don't really care to go further on right now, and this has caused me to distant myself from him.

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  You have to love yourself first before you can love someone else!

  Nothing personal Europe, but I disagree with this statement. Although it is ideal, I do not see it as universally true or necessary. It seems to be a modern buzz phrase that many people use to pursue selfish interests. It is often used as a cop out to get out of a relationship that someone has committed to but not currently happy with.

  I think marriages deserve the best efforts of both parties.
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  Is it possible to fall out of love....and married?

  by Lost Diamond in

  1. social
  2. family

  i would like to know what your opinions are and i would really appreciate some input.. i have been re-married for two years, but along the way there has been some deep hurts, although no infidelity.

  he claims that he loves me, but i do not feel the same way for him as i once did.

  i was married to a verbally abusive husband for 11 yrs, and i'm wondering if maybe i just wasn't ready to remarry so soon, and the hurt my current husband has caused has rubbed some old wounds alittle too often.. he has done some emotionally hurtful things to me in which i don't really care to go further on right now, and this has caused me to distant myself from him.

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  amac

  This is obviously a delicate topic and not ideal for being advised on in a public forum.

  My personal general opinion is that the marriage vows are very important. They shouldn't be tossed because someone is not presently happy. Every effort possible should be made to correct and develop the relationship in order to keep your vows and abandoning those vows should be a last resort or escape from real harm. I definitely suggest both communicating your concerns with your mate and seeing a counselor. If you don't like the counselor, don't give up, just pick a different one. At least give your husband the chance to earn your relationship. If he is unaware of your feelings he will have a hard time doing this.
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  ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.

  in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?

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  amac

  Give me examples. You already gave rebuttals to Quotes. Now, give me examples about what you said

  What kind of examples do you want? I made a statement that the WT as an organization stresses the importance of honesty. Do you disagree with this? Do you want me to post references to WT and Awake articles talking about honesty? I hope not, because I don't think I could be bothered. If you were ever a JW you have to acknowledge that honesty is talked about both in print and from the platform quite a bit, unless you were sleeping the whole time.

  The second half of my statement was that they do a good job of keeping everyone in line with their teachings. I think everyone on this site is a good example of that. As soon as you step out of line and then don't jump back the way they tell you to, you get the boot. Do you disagree that they are very strict and effective at keeping all their members thoughts and actions in line with their teachings?
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  ARE JW'S MORE HONEST THAN OTHERS?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one thing that the witnesses promote is how they are different from the rest of the world.

  in your personal experience , did you find that you could trust a witness more than you could a non-jw?

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  amac

  Quotes -

  I would like to make a defense for JWs

• vandalism/destruction of opposing view (a.k.a. Apostate) books at public libraries

  This must be viewed as a generalization. I ask anyone reading this, how many JWs did you ever know that would do something like this? And then compare that to how many JWs you have ever known. Personally, I do not know a single JW that would do this.

• illegal entry into homes and apartment buildings clearly marked "No Tresspassing"

  Again, if there was an actual sign that said "No Trespassing" the majority of JWs I know would not trespass. Apartment buildings are different as they usually don't have a sign that says "No trespassing" so there is no "illegal entry."

failure to report suspected and alleged child molestation, contrary to mandatory reporting laws

The elders that do not report are not breaking laws (unfortunately.) As it has been pointed out many times, in most states there are loop holes that say clergy do not have to report. Now there are average JWs who do not report it, but that is far from exclusive to JWs and usually has to do with a lack of education on the matter. Conversely, there are many JWs who DO report child molestations.

• failure to pay taxes ordered by the French government. They simply moved out of the contry to avoid payment. So much for "paying Caesar's things to Caesar".

I am not sure if you are familiar with the details of this tax issue, but it was highly criminal on the GOVERNMENT's part. They were trying to retroactively apply an obscure estate tax law to any donations made to the society. The WT tried to fight it in court legally. I see no illegal actions there.

abducting children to prevent court ordered, life saving, blood transfusions

This very well may happen, but I am not personally aware of any children that have needed transfusions, so I can't comment either way.

abducting children to prevent court ordered custody of a "non-believing" parent

I have never heard of this happening, so I can only imagine that, again, if it has, it has been done by an extreme minority of JWs.

bribing Mexican government officals to receive a "cartilla" which indicates that mandatory military service has already been served

I only know hearsay about these events so can't comment either way.

• telling lies while under oath, claiming it is not a lie but rather "spiritual warfare"

  Although, again, I do not know of any accounts personally, I can imagine this one as being true, but I do not know for fact.

Just the flipside here...