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  One of the most important questions.

  by Lemonp in

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  it is enthralling having everything being dragged kicking and screaming into the light of day.

  however one of the most important things to ask is this:.

  is the rc evidence admissable in other countries and other courts?.

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  OrphanCrow

  Searcher: How much worse is what elders do to victims?

  Worse. The minor is put in a room with adult men and the men get a live, blow by blow account of sexual acts done to that minor. It is creepy - the JW elders have access to pornographic material right in front of their faces. And,...then they get to talk about it amongst themselves. And they do it over and over again..you know...to collect more "evidence". Evidence of sex with a minor. Eveidence that they take notes on and share with other men in their organization.

  And, to add to the titillation, it is done secretly...behind closed doors. Secret child pornography. No wonder the WTS doesn't want to hand over their child abuse files - it is their private collection of child pornographic sex stories that they don't want to give up.
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  Dr Applewhite and Child Abuse

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.

  also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!

  never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.

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  OrphanCrow

  Monica Applewhite has a reputation for giving false testimony under oath.

  .http://images.bimedia.net/documents/St+Aug+v+Applewhite.pdf

  In 2011, Dr. Applewhite was sued by the St. Augustine High School in New Orleans for defamation. Applewhite had given false testimony that some of the students had required medical care after receiving corporal punishment. Her testimony was proven to be wrong.

  http://media.nola.com/religion_impact/other/st-augustine-lawsuit.pdf
  

  Not only that, Applewhite had claimed that she had received reports of abuse but she did nothing about it. She did not report the alleged abuse in spite of being a mandatory reporter herself.
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  In Shocking Testimony, Jehovah’s Witnesses Reveal They Feel No Need to Protect a Child From a Pedophile

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  article from jwvictims.org:.

  http://jwvictims.org/2015/07/30/in-shocking-testimony-jehovahs-witnesses-reveal-they-feel-no-need-to-protect-a-child-from-a-pedophile/.

  in shocking testimony, jehovahs witnesses reveal they feel no need to protect a child from a pedophiletoday, many former jehovahs witnesses are clinging to every word said during the australian royal commissions inquiry into institutional responses to child sex abuse.

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  OrphanCrow

  Marvin: Then let secular authorities deal with it as best they can. That's the best we have at the moment for hindering further victimization of our children.

  And...the JW elders have to be stopped from collecting "evidence" of sex with a minor. That is sick beyond belief - the Judical Committees have to be barred from collecting child sex stories.

  The WTS should be made to hand over all of their child sex abuse files to the authorities on the grounds of it being a collection of child pornography. And they have to be stopped from collecting that information from minors ever again.
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  Dr Applewhite and Child Abuse

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.

  also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!

  never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.

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  OrphanCrow

  not qualified

  Her qualifications are sorely lacking, according to the Royal Commission. She lied on the stand - she said she had only given testimony in one case and then after prompting, it turns out that she has given "expert" testimony many times for the WTS.

  She is the "expert" who said that the WTS were blameless in the Conti case.

  She 'knew' the elder books and such pretty good - she used the WTS as a source yet was unable to produce a single outside source to back up her opinion. No wonder the WTS likes her - she thinks her word comes from God and that is all that is necessary. Why did she not have any references to back her opinions up? Surely she at least could have offered something stats on the Catholic Church to back up her claims. She couldn't even come with the names of those 'outside' organizations she supposedly worked with.

  Applewhite does not deserve the "expert' label that she is flying under. The Royal Commission has mentioned more than once that they would not be able to accept her testimony based on what she has given them.
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  One of the most important questions.

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it is enthralling having everything being dragged kicking and screaming into the light of day.

  however one of the most important things to ask is this:.

  is the rc evidence admissable in other countries and other courts?.

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  OrphanCrow

  I have an important question.

  Is the collection of "evidence" by the JW elders in child sex cases even legal at its most fundamental core? Can adult men legally collect details about child sex from a minor and then share those pornographic details with other men?

  Is not the judical process itself actually a process of producing and distributing child pornography?

  It makes me sick to my stomach that adult men can collect, write down, and then distribute those intimate details of sex with minors. The JW elders MUST be stopped from ever engaging in this sick and perverted practice. This is child exploitation that is reprehensible beyond belief.

  And now, the WTS is trying to say that a minor has the option of writing out all the details of the sexual acts that were done to them and then submitting that material to the judical committe so that all those men can read about the sex acts that occurred between a minor and an adult. This 'improvement' that the WTS is proposing is sick - they are getting the child victim to provide pornographic material to them, written out in the child's own words. Sick, sick, sick.

  Why is this being allowed to happen?
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  Dr Applewhite and Child Abuse

  by snare&racket in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shocked that an expert would simply examine only the literature given to her by the organisation she was defending and simply accept it.

  also the ease she has in making huge sweeping statements when comparing the jw's to all other international religious organisations simply undermines her professionalism.. i am also thoroughly shocked at her blatant, 'expert for hire', 'will defend anyone' apparent decision making, the organisation is responsible for covering up thousands of abuse victims by its own records, in australia alone!

  never mind their judicial process being heartless and traumatic!.

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  OrphanCrow

  Applewhite tesified for the Watchtower in the Conti case.

  https://scholar.google.ca/scholar_case?case=1459454263317018183&q=monica+applewhite&hl=en&as_sdt=2006
  

  Monica Applewhite, a clinical social worker and an expert on child sexual abuse, testified for defendants that Watchtower's policy against "disclosing private information . . . very closely mirror[ed]" the codes of ethics of the National Association of Social Workers and the American Counseling Association. Based on her review of the evidence, Applewhite opined that the Congregation never put Kendrick "into a position that required or allowed him to be alone with children, to be in supervision of children, [or] to spend time with children away from their families." Because the church's activities did not separate children from their parents, Appelwhite opined that its best means of protecting children was to educate parents about child sexual abuse, and it exceeded the standard of care for such education in the 1990's. According to Applewhite, the elders met the standard of care in Kendrick's case when they left it up to Evelyn and her daughter whether to tell the police about the abuse he admitted, and "they kept a special watch on him and paid attention to whether or not he had any inappropriate contact with children within the meetings at Kingdom Hall."

  She says that she is a qualifed expert, but she offered no 'expert' sources to back up her opinions. There is something really wrong with her supposed credentials.

  She isn't an experst per se...her only expertise is in showing up and saying stupid things about how the WTS is shiny clean in their handling of child sex abuse.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  OrphanCrow

  I know I am odd. Sorry.

  Courtroom procedure and the law fascinates me. It gets my blood flowing and my heart pumping - especially as it applies to the protection of children, I guess that is the "mama" coming out in me.

  I have tremendous respect for the Royal Commission and I know finely tuned courtroom presence when I see it. I am so impressed with our Australian friends and I apologize for what I say if it offends anyone. I can't help it...it is just what I know about certain things.

  I have had my own share of courtroom experience and this brings back lots of memories for me. I, too, fought legal battles against a psychopath who didn't have my baby's best interests at heart and a legal system that wasn't on my side. And a police system that did not support me. I walked into courtrooms on my own at times - and won. And lost. Years of it. I am so involved in this...you have no idea...please excuse my bluntness and weirdness.

  I will try to behave. It is time for this crow to get some sleep.

  Mama Crow is tired.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  OrphanCrow

  Yup. Serious as hell. I agree.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  OrphanCrow

  Yo, Smiiddy, Do ya think the Harlot is riding on the Beast?

  I wish I had a glass of red wine...eh..beer will do.
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  Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  anyone know who this monty baker is?

  i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".

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  OrphanCrow

  That WT lawyer's voice is oily. Smooth...

  The serpent is hissing.

  He has trouble with that forked tongue.