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  "Do you realise how inappropriate that is?!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the australian royal commission enquiry into child abuse and the way institutions handle such is underway.. today the judge said the following in response to the way judicial committees operate:.

  (not verbatim...but the gist of his comments are:).

  "so a young woman, a suspected victim of abuse or someone accused of a sin, would have to appear before three older men in a 'judicial committee' and relate in detail her ordeal?

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  opusdei1972: Interestingly, the evil methodology of the judicial meetings is being exposed.

  And not only that, but the dark underbelly of the congregations is also being exposed. Yesterday's witness, the woman who was told to bottle her tears in a skin bottle, revealed how unkind and unloving the whole congregation is, including women who accused her of lying. Her own mother was complacent in the abuse.

  The judicial meetings are horribly abusive and the rest of the congregation falls in line and continues the abuse - the JW women are extensions of the male abuse. The abusive behavior is not just confined to the elders - it is systemic.
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  JW Reaction to Royal Commission Reports

  by maksutov in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anybody confronted any jws with the royal commission reports on the news yet?

  i showed my 8-year old daughter a newspaper headline about it, and when she told my jw wife that the jws in australia were in trouble for not reporting over 1,000 child abusers to police, her response was "oh, really?

  well, i don't know what the rules are over there.

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  Oubilette: "Oh, really? Well, I don't know what the rules are over there."
  Wow, that's lame. Really lame.

  It sure reveals their lack of independent thought.

  The JWs are a rule based culture. They view the world as split into "worldly rules" and "our rules". And of course, worldly rules are bad and their rules are good.

  I don't think the JWs are capable of viewing the world in any other way except rule based. The JWs use their "rules" as a safety fence that protects them from that big, bad world out there. Only trouble is, those rules are what keeps the wolves inside the fence instead of keeping them out.
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  Cossacks attack, throw stones at Jehovahs Witnesses in RC while local police watched

  by oppostate in

  1. social
  2. current

  07/23/2015russiacossacks attack, throw stones at jehovah's witnessesby nina achmatova.

  http://www.asianews.it/news-en/cossacks-attack,-throw-stones-at-jehovahs-witnesses-34845.html.

  jehovah's witnesses were meeting in congress on 10-12 july in krymsk, krasnodar region.

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  LoveUniHateExams: Cossacks (interesting-sounding word - possibly related to the word Kazakhs?)

  "Cossack" actually means "free man". The Cossacks earned that name because of their belief in a free, democratic society. (kozac - not Kazakhs).

  The name "Cossack" is synonymous with "freedom fighter" because of the Cossacks' tendency to pick up arms and fight on the side of the underprivileged. Historically, the Cossacks were seen as the "knights" of Imperial Russia and the protectors of Russian people. At one time, the seven Cossack clans that guarded the borders of Imperial Russia were called "The Seven Pearls of Russia".

  *to add - the Cossack political alliance was split in the years leading up to the Revolution. The "red" Cossacks aligned themselves with the Bolsheviks and the "white" Cossacks remained loyal to the Tzar and Imperial Russia.
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  Ding: "I don't recall" sounds like, "We get so many of these I can't keep track of them all."

  Yes, You are right.

  Dino told the judge that "some things stick in a person's memory but others don't" (sic).

  Which could be interpreted to mean "I don't recall because it wasn't important enough to stick in my memory".

  The lack of recall is damning whichever you look at it. If they can't remember child abuse being reported to them it means that the abuse was insignificant in their minds.

  For guys who can't remember most things asked of them, they sure can launch into detailed explanations at times when it comes time to explain their actions.

  "I don't recall" means "I can't reply without lying".
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  ........
  Asked how long ago he was asked to appear at this inquiry ? About 4-6 weeks ago .
  My words not his ,but that is the gist of it.
  smiddy

  ...and the judge raised his eyebrows at Bello's responses.

  I don't think that the judge was too impressed that Bello hadn't prepared for his testimony. The Commission has prepared several guides for witnesses called to the hearing and Bello had made no effort to educate himself on the process.
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  Huh. Dino's conversion story published in the Feb. 2012 Watchtower.

  file:///C:/Users/PC/Downloads/wp_E_20120201.pdf

  Page 10.

  “I love being part of
  this large family.”
  —DINO ALI

  Hmmm. I wonder how much he will love that "large family" if this commission results in him being charged in criminal court.
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  Dino Ali Taking the Stand NOW

  by AudeSapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dino ali, elder, taking the stand now in the australian hearings.. he's talking about interaction with disfellowshipped persons.. watch it live: .

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

  -aude..

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  Dino actually told the judge that if he knew of a murder, that he would not report it to the police.

  OMGog.
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  Did you know? The Watchtower called Filipinos lazy and barbaric, and CTR wrote letter to U.S. President to sell the Philippines to Japan?

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  100 years ago: wt calls filipinos lazy, barbaric; asks president to sell philippines to japan.

  http://ad1914.com/.../100-years-ago-july-1915-russell-claims.../.

  100 years ago: april 1915 - russell claims filipinos are lazy, barbaric; asks us president to.... main points:.

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  Quarterback: Well, Russel never took a Cruise vacation.

  Yes he did. He took a cruise to Hawaii and falsely reported that he had given a sermon while there:

  http://www.stevedaily.com/Exposing_Jehovahs_Witnesses.html
  

  
  on February 19th, 1912, the Brooklyn Daily
  Eagle reported that Russell traveled extensively and sent back sermons that he supposedly
  delivered back to the United States. The Eagle contended that Russell never delivered these
  sermons in places like Hawaii to a "large audience." The Editor of the Hawaiian Star wrote
  that Russell appeared for a few hours in Hawaii but didn't make his expected public address.
  This was typical of many other documented accounts.
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  Royal Commission convened for now, but Jackson is an asshole

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have just finished listening to this man jackson.

  i remember him well.

  he is twisting things around as much as he is allowed.

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  Sheesh. It is appearing like every single JW elder suffers from Alzheimer's disease. Or maybe they have all had a lobotomy.

  Their most common response is "I can't remember" or "I can't recall".

  The elders are coming across as having no personal autonomy whatsoever because their next favorite response is "whatever the branch tells me to do".

  The elders refuse to give their own opinion on anything or take responsibility for their actions. They continually shift the blame.

  The judge looks disgusted with their responses.
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  Update on Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  paedophiles repeatedly promoted to positions of authority in jehovahs witness church royal commission told.

  1 hour ago july 27, 2015 12:45pm.

  counsel assisting the royal commission, angus stewart sc has told the royal commission that church elders could now face criminal charges.

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  Oops...I called the lawyer for the Commission "Sinclair" and his name is "Stewart". I am horrible on names. Damn...I even call my daughter by my son's name sometimes...or my bird's name. Or the dog's name...

  Oh, there's a reply, all right.

  True. But nothing that makes logical sense according to biblical interpretation.

  We know what the answer is...but Horley could never say it. He would be kicked to the curb by the WTS without a moment's hesitation.