Well, damn, Oubilette - it must be the forum demons at work again. It really was there when I posted it!
Oh well...like I said before - I have a Master of Fuck All - I can't figure out why it didn't post.
OrphanCrow
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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Damn. Sorry, Oubliette. I meant to include your entire post but now I see that my last minute editing didn't work out...stupid phone rang and I didn't get back to it after hitting Post Reply.
It was supposed to look like this:
cantleave: A degree can help open the door, but success once you have stepped through that door depends on many other factors.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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Oubliette
cantleave: A degree can help open the door, but success once you have stepped through that door depends on many other factors.I have found that persistence and hard work don't stand a chance up against politics and inter-personal relationships in the workplace.
Want to be successful and get ahead? Learn to be political in your job - your work usually comes second to that.
An education does not equal a job - there is a reason that an MFA is called a Master of Fuck All.
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"Gerson Therapy" in Tijuana, Mexico
by OrphanCrow insince at least back to the 1960s in canada, jws have been travelling to mexico for cancer treatment.
and, i believe, other medical treatments.
because i watched my uncle die of cancer back in 1962, unable to receive treatment because the doctors couldn't operate without blood, i have always been curious as to why the jws with cancer were going to mexico.
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Blondie, I hadn't heard of Hoxsey Therapy before. After reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxsey_Therapy, I would think that Hoxsey would fit hand in glove with those early Watchtower quack doctors.
Maybe it was the Hoxsey Therapy that was being sought after by JWs in the early 60s. I notice after reading more about Gerson Therapy, that it wasn't established in Mexico until the late 70s.
Faye, what you describe resembles the Hoxsey Therapy rather than the Gerson Therapy. Sorry about the right side of my post - I don't know how to fix that.
Regardless, they are both questionable and dangerous 'cures'. Which makes those quack cures prime candidates for people gullible enough to believe that 7 men in New York have a direct line to some gawd in the sky.
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"Gerson Therapy" in Tijuana, Mexico
by OrphanCrow insince at least back to the 1960s in canada, jws have been travelling to mexico for cancer treatment.
and, i believe, other medical treatments.
because i watched my uncle die of cancer back in 1962, unable to receive treatment because the doctors couldn't operate without blood, i have always been curious as to why the jws with cancer were going to mexico.
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Since at least back to the 1960s in Canada, JWs have been travelling to Mexico for cancer treatment. And, I believe, other medical treatments.
Because I watched my uncle die of cancer back in 1962, unable to receive treatment because the doctors couldn't operate without blood, I have always been curious as to why the JWs with cancer were going to Mexico. My aunt and uncle didn't have the money to go to Mexico and instead went to Vancouver for some kind of treatment.
I just read a post on reddit that named the cancer therapy in Mexico that the JWs often elect for treatment.
The Gerson Therapy.
Developed by Max Gerson, a German-born physician who immigrated to the States in 1936, bringing with him his ideas on how to cure cancer and...well, almost anything. Except, his ideas and methods were not able to be proven and are, in fact, dangerous.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson
It is interesting to note that his therapy included not using aluminum cookware. Sound familiar?
The methods and ideas that are used in Gerson Therapy reflect much of the early 'medical' advice given to the Bible Students back in the days of pre-JW. The early Consolation magazines of the 1920s and 30s endorse many of the same methods and principles that Max Gerson was promoting in his therapy. And, Gerson would have shared the anti-AMA sentiments of the Watchtower in the time he spent in New York prior to his therapy being banned in the States.
I now understand the attraction to Mexico for medical treatment for JWs.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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OrphanCrow
opusdei1972 Many christians who have a Ph.D. in theology use this degree to propagate lies with a scholarly language. Nothing more.
Good Point. Degrees come with bias. Just because someone has some letters doesn't mean the letters are credible. I have read much material written by people who claim degrees, and then when I have researched where those degrees come from, I find that they are little more than popcorn box degrees. (Dr. Bergman's biology degree springs to mind)
Many of the theologians with Phds in front of their names have been educated in Christian universities that have a pre-determined bias built into their educational material. Or, they have been awarded their degrees from 'Bible' colleges.
'Scholarly' has a broad range of interpretation.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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TTWSYF:
adjusted knowledge: Though I think credentials are important and add weight to a person's argument, I also think a well read person with life experience is just as qualified
I disagree. Although it can be true. The problem is that where are they getting their reading material? Is it an accredited source of information?I agree with you. TTWSYF.
A well read person is not necessarily the same as well educated. A person may be well read in hundreds of books and still fall short of having a solid base of knowledge.
And, a person can have excellent critical reasoning skills but no solid base upon which to use them. It is the educational institution that can offer a framework in which to evaluate material.
That said, though, I have met many people with lots of letters behind, and in front of, their names who are dumb as posts on subjects outside their frame of reference. And I have met people with little more than a grade school education that have phenomenal knowledge about particular subjects.
Education comes in many forms - learning is a life time endeavor, and just because a person doesn't have letters behind their name, doesn't mean that they don't have valuable contributions to make and things to teach even the most learned. That is why the greatest teachers teach - so that they can learn.
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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?
by EndofMysteries infrom so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.
i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.
to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.
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OrphanCrow
Bachelor of Arts (3 yr) degree - Psychology.
Bachelor of Fine Arts (4 year) - Photography.
Masters of Fine Arts - Intermedia.
...and a well-earned but unawarded 'doctorate' degree in survival.
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21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.
by James Jack ini was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.
of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.
i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.
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FayeDunaway:
Speaking of all these torn families, Has anyone noticed what the special talk after the memorial is entitled? Quite ironic.Yes, I did. It isn't just ironic - it is insanity.
"A Promise of Perfect Family Happiness"
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Child Protection is Everyone's Responsibility!
by ABibleStudent ini just completed recurrent child protection training for a voluntary organization that i belong to.
i wanted to share the following information.
i highlighted one statement in bold from the training that i felt was important for adults of any organization to remember.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,robert.
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Fisherman: Child Protection is NOT Everyone's LEGAL Responsibility!
That depends on which country you live in. In Canada, child protection IS everybody's legal responsibility.
Who is responsible for reporting a child in need of protection?
Anyone who has reasonable grounds to suspect that a child is or may be in need of protection must promptly report the suspicion and the information upon which it is based to a CAS. Section 72 (1) describes the specific circumstances that must be reported (See pages 7 to 10). [CFSA s.72 (1)]Do professionals and officials have any special responsibilities to report?
Professionals and officials have the same duty as the rest of the public to report their suspicion that a child is or may be in need of protection. However, the Act recognizes that people working closely with children have a special awareness of the signs of child abuse and neglect, and a particular responsibility to report their suspicions. Any professional or official who fails to report a suspicion is liable on conviction to a fine of up to $1,000, if they obtained the information in the course of their professional or official duties. [CFSA s.72 (4), (6.2)]