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  Child Protection is Everyone's Responsibility!

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i just completed recurrent child protection training for a voluntary organization that i belong to.

  i wanted to share the following information.

  i highlighted one statement in bold from the training that i felt was important for adults of any organization to remember.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,robert.

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  Fisherman: Child Protection is NOT Everyone's LEGAL Responsibility!

  That depends on which country you live in. In Canada, child protection IS everybody's legal responsibility.

  http://www.children.gov.on.ca/htdocs/English/topics/childrensaid/reportingabuse/abuseandneglect/abuseandneglect.aspx

  Who is responsible for reporting a child in need of protection?
  Anyone who has reasonable grounds to suspect that a child is or may be in need of protection must promptly report the suspicion and the information upon which it is based to a CAS. Section 72 (1) describes the specific circumstances that must be reported (See pages 7 to 10). [CFSA s.72 (1)]

  Do professionals and officials have any special responsibilities to report?
  Professionals and officials have the same duty as the rest of the public to report their suspicion that a child is or may be in need of protection. However, the Act recognizes that people working closely with children have a special awareness of the signs of child abuse and neglect, and a particular responsibility to report their suspicions. Any professional or official who fails to report a suspicion is liable on conviction to a fine of up to $1,000, if they obtained the information in the course of their professional or official duties. [CFSA s.72 (4), (6.2)]
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  Patient dies as JW paramedic refuses to administer blood product -- thanks, Religious Freedom Act!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  (i realize this topic may have already been addressed so i apologize in advance.).

  no, that's not a real headline but i suppose it could be one here in arkansas -- one of several states in the us that has a religious freedom law on their books.. as i understand it, if i, as a jw paramedic, am ordered to deliver a blood product to my patient, i can refuse to do so based on my religious freedom.

  as a logical consequence, a patient could die.. would paramedic be an occupation be that one of jehovah's witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood..

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  In Canada, paramedics administer blood and blood products.

  In Saskatchewan, paramedics carry and administer blood - a friend of mine was given blood in his home before being transported by ambulance to the hospital.
  

  This is from a training module for Portage College of Paramedics in Alberta:

  The incidents of administering blood products in the field are very rare, except perhaps in the air ambulance setting. However, with the trend of increased patient transfers and specialized health care centers, the frequency Paramedics are required to initiate and monitor the transfusion of blood products is increasing. As a result, the practitioner must have a strong understanding of the different types of blood products; the importance of ensuring the blood product is administered to the intended recipient, the process of initiating and monitoring blood products and assessing the patient for adverse reactions.

  https://www.collegeofparamedics.org/media/60977/emtp_bloodproducts.pdf

  Where this becomes pertinent for Canadians, is disclosed in the following article:

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/doctors-make-charter-challenge-on-right-to-refuse-care-on-religious-grounds-1.3006462

  Christian medical professionals are challenging Ontario's College of Physicians and Surgeons in court over a policy that requires doctors to provide or at least refer medical services, even when they clash with personal values.

  In a statement of claim filed in Ontario's Superior Court of Justice, two groups — the Christian Medical and Dental Society of Canada and the Canadian Federation of Catholic Physicians' Societies — and five individual doctors say the college's policy violates their rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
  At issue is the Ontario medical regulator's vote earlier this month to update its professional and human rights policy.

  The new Ontario policy requires doctors unwilling to provide certain care, such as prescriptions for contraception, to refer patients in good faith to a "non-objecting, available, and accessible" physician. The policy also says in medical emergencies, the doctors would be required to perform procedures themselves.

  Doctors who violate the policy could face disciplinary action, the college policy states.

  FatFreek:

  Would paramedic be an occupation be that one of Jehovah's Witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood.

  I believe this was directly answered in one of the Watchtowers from back in the 80s or 90s, I think. I don't know the exact quote, but it could have been a question from readers - whether someone working in health care (doctor or nurse) could administer blood. The answer was 'yes'.

  
  
  
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  I'm bemused - Vladimir Putin as a Christian Warrior - Do Russians see him as a fighter for Jesus?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i accidentally came across this youtube video, "why the west fears putin.

  " curious, i watched it.

  you may find it interesting also.

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  Orphan Crow - I don't mean to be mean but your question is a 30 second google search.
  ....they are the older generation who came up through the military, society and especially the KGB/Communist Politburo/Political organizations in the same manner as Vlad, who as I have pointed out is KGB trained and bred. Typically they pine to be back in the USSR.
  If you are truly a Russophile, you would have known this.

  thank you...but I have spent little time on the history of Russia after the Revolution...you are speaking, then, of the old 'Bolshevik' guard - the 'old guard' that is post 1917...not the old guard of old Russia...

  Sorry...I will back out of this and return to my dusty readings through Imperial Russian history...pre-Soviet history...pardon me....
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  How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.

  only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.

  in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.

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  Oh...I forgot one of the JWs biggest anti- , and it deserves at least an honorable mention.

  Anti-Catholic.
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  How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.

  only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.

  in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.

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  Are the JWs radical?

  I think so. In a few ways.

  The religion attracts that element of population who are dissatisfied with 'current affairs' and who buy into the idea that 'this system' (government) is 'Bad'. The JW religion gives a safe haven to people who are already 'radicalized' or 'marginalized' by their political viewpoint of 'the world'. The JWs are made up of people who are 'anti- government' and 'anti-establishment' and 'anti- religion', etc.

  As many have already said - the JW child sacrifice rituals are radical. Their self-sacrifice on the altar of blood is radical.

  They preach radical teachings - anti-Christendom, anti-UN, anti-Russia, anti-government, anti-fill in the blank...
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  How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  please pardon if this a repeated topic.

  i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

  she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

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  This is why we should all be twittering and instagraming ex-JW celebrities. THEY will bring attention to the issue. Imagine just one person on a major talk show mentioning child sexual abuse in the WTBTS.

  Good luck on finding that one celebrity that will speak out, DD.

  Whenever I have heard exJW celebrities speak about their past religion, they are usually apologetic.

  I am thinking of Sherry, who used to be on "The View". She would say nothing bad about the JWs,and was always defending them.

  Celebrities have their own image to protect and the ones who have left the religion seem to still suffer from the 'protect the organization' effect.
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  I'm bemused - Vladimir Putin as a Christian Warrior - Do Russians see him as a fighter for Jesus?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i accidentally came across this youtube video, "why the west fears putin.

  " curious, i watched it.

  you may find it interesting also.

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  kaik: ...the communist bastards in the past.

  Ah, yes...my Grandfather, literally with his dying breath, raised his fist in the air, and said, with a strong Russian voice, "God, DAMN the Bolsheviks...to HELL for what they did to my family." And then he died.

  DJS: But that is what Putin is, and he plays well to the old guard and the rank and file who seek a strong leader.

  Russian politics and history are a passion of mine. Could you please enlarge on who you mean when you refer to "the old guard"? I need some historical context for the expression - the meaning shifts through time.

  DJS: Not Ukrainians? May I ask who/what is a Ukrainian? You seem to be dismissive of the idea that a large proportion of the population may (most likely are) ethnic Russian.

  This is true.

  The areas of Russia in question is where I have family roots - I count family members in the numbers of casualties you have posted.

  The Ukrainian/Russian designation is somewhat fluid, depending on how far back you go in history. The borders that separate the countries have shifted many times historically, and migration of the Cossack clans in previous centuries has shifted the demographics in those regions.

  
  
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  Nahuatl among Jehovah's Witnesses of Hueyapan, Morelos: A case of spontaneous revitalization

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nahuatl among jehovahs witnesses of hueyapan, morelos: a case of spontaneous revitalization.

  by - magnus pharao hansen.

  abstract.

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  NAHUATL AMONG JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES OF HUEYAPAN, MORELOS: A CASE OF SPONTANEOUS REVITALIZATION

  by - MAGNUS PHARAO HANSEN

  Abstract

  "The sociolinguistic situation of Hueyapan, Morelos, is similar to those described in other studies of modern Nahua communities: the language is in a rapid process of decline. This article describes the situation within one particular subcommunity of the town: the congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

  Here the Nahuatl language has experienced a revival within the last five years, to a degree where congregational meetings are now held mostly in Nahuatl, and where young Witnesses are probably the only group of youths in Hueyapan to communicate daily in Nahuatl. It is argued that this situation arose as a result of the combination of the general sociolinguistic background in Hueyapan and the specific value system and social dynamics that exist in the community of Jehovah’s Witnesses."

  The article can be downloaded as a pdf
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  Yet Another Putdown of Women! – KM March 2015

  by SAHS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this weeks service meeting part (week starting march 23, 2015) in the our kingdom ministry under the heading meetings for field service that accomplish.

  their purpose includes a little sub-article entitled when a sister must conduct.

  the direct link is: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/kingdom-ministry/ click the little document download button under the one labeled km15 03-e us and then choose a format (pdf looks best)..

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  OrphanCrow

  SAHS:“The service overseer should try to anticipate unusual situations and give appropriate instructions so as to minimize awkwardness.” Awkwardness? So, it’s really that much of an “unusual” and “awkward” situation for a woman (female) to conduct a little field service group?

  SAHS, I believe you can find the reason for that awkwardness a bit farther down in the directive.

  Or perhaps there is an adult brother who is restricted from conducting the meeting or offering congregation prayer for reasons known by the elders. Without revealing confidential information, the elders should let the assigned sisters know that they should conduct and pray even if he is in attendance.

  The directive is laying out the procedure for what to do if "an adult brother who is restricted from conducting the meeting or offering congregation prayer" is in attendance.

  And why would he be restricted? Well, it would be for "reasons known by the elders".

  And would the sister conducting know what that brother had done so she could assign him to an appropriate group? Hell no. "Without revealing confidential information, the elders should let the assigned sisters know that they should conduct and pray even if he is in attendance."

  And how will that brother who is on restrictions be spared the embarrassment of attending and having to have a woman pray for him? Well, that's simple. “The elders might also let the brother know which days sisters are scheduled to conduct the meetings for field service.”

  And there you have it - how women are to be kept in the dark about a rapist/pedophile in the field service group.
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  JW's caught laughing at Child rapist accusers"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.

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  Ugh. that was horrible.

  The speaker made a big deal out of a young girl who said her father "touched her'. And then the speaker listed all the bad consequences that happened to the family...and THEN the young girl recanted, trying to put her family back together.

  Of course she tried to sign a document saying her father didn't do it - she was being pressured to do so by what happened to her family because of her father's actions.

  And yet, the speaker makes her out to be the one who victimized the family, along with the law.

  The speaker's interpretation of events is truly disgusting and lacks any intelligent or reasonable explanation for the young girl's actions - rather than interpreting her "lie" as a maneuver to save her mother and family from the consequences of her father's actions, she is painted as the one who did something wrong.

  The message I got is that victims shouldn't report their abuse because saying something about it will hurt the family. He reinforces the destructive practice of keeping secrets.