Posts by OrphanCrow

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[Day 7 - 5/8]The Royal Commissions investigation of child sexual abuse within Jehovah’s Witnesses. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

i give you day 7 of the royal commissions proceedings:.

part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 and 3 will soon be available.. part 1:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk0lgqedy_i.

OrphanCrow

TheOldHippie: then you come up with the - sorry for saying so - most stupid statement of the day. A plain lie, and no matter what one thinks about present-day JWs and WT, that does in no way make it legitime to minimize their sufferings during WWII or to try to explain it away or claim it was their own fault. Shame on you in this respect. Downplaying past tragedies because of present-day policies is just plain wrong and bad.

Sorry, it is not a lie what I said.

I was reponding to the comments made on the stand. I wasn't the one who brought up the WTS' revionist history, Spinks was the one who did.

My response was accurate. Spinks left out the known history of the JWs who had work assignments with the SS when he played the "JWs in the camps" card and he did not provide accurate information. The JWs in Nazi Germany were arrested for spreading oppositional propaganda - their arrests predate the start of WW2 by many years, long before Germany started military action, and they did have work assignments with the SS like building Heinrich Himmler's castle. If Spinks was going to bring up the role of JWs in WW2, then the whole story deserves to be told.

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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

by umbertoecho in

hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

OrphanCrow

Umber: They seem very worried about having their financials looked at...

Were they ever! The WT lizard almost knocked his chair over standing up to protest the submission of the letter.

He was stuck between a rock and a hard place - he couldn't let the information out, and now, he has brought the court's attention to those parts. Which, of course, will make McClelland scrutinize the document and those parts even closer.

I have a suspicion that their financials don't line up with that audited financial statement they submitted to the Commission to show how broke they are. Which reminds me, umber...another thing that might be fun to track down is some more information on who the auditor was for that statement. A Peter Marshall, I think...something like that. I can't find much about him - he seems like a little fish in a big pond. I wonder if he swims in the JW pond - he certainly is doing business with a bunch of sharks.

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It seems the Royal Commission has been adjourned for the day.

by umbertoecho in

i have been to the website expecting to see the days commencement, but a note is there at the bottom saying this meeting has been adjourned for today.

this was posted about 17 hours ago.. anyone else heard of this?.

might give some people the opportunity to read through the transcripts.

OrphanCrow

Well, the WT lizard did submit that the judge could "read this document at his Honor's leisure..." Yeah, right. Like the Justice has "leisure time". That WT lizard is scaly. I can't stand his voice...so smooth and slippery. I feel dirty just listening to him.

I am sure that the Commission has much to consider. Umber. you are right. Just think of all the emails they have coming in from all over with source material and such to add to the evidence against the WTS. I betcha the JWs haven't mounted a campaign in defense of those WTS guys.

I am so gald to hear that this hearing will get extended if necessary. It needs to stay focused and the WTS tactic is to send up delay tactics to hide behind. Give the opposition a flood of material to wade through and hope they can "fix" the laws through boredom and overload of work.

You notice how the WT branch guys revert to teaching when they are on the stand. They think they are using the question and answer format to educate the courts.

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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

by umbertoecho in

hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

OrphanCrow

Perfect! If Jackson doesn't appear, the Catholic expert will have a difficult time defending the JWs archaic judicial system.

Jackson is on both the teaching and writing departments - both of which Applewhite claims to have examined so closely. And says are so good for teaching about child sex abuse. I hope he gets to explain the benefits of the most recent monster cartoon.

Jackson has to appear if they hope to have the court accept Applewhite's expert report, that they weaseled more time out of the court for presentation. She is going to have a hard time coming up with a relevant report after a representative from those two departments either doesn't show or dors show and makes an ass out of all of them.

The screws are tightening.

cattails: I love Angus! He's awesome and hot too!

I am a huge Angus Stewart fan as well. His courtroom presence is so good. I wouldn't want to piss him off. I love that he lets his emotions show - he got really pissed at the end of last session when the WT lizard was trying to block parts of the letter that Stewart submitted.

Stewart has a brilliant mind - I am honored to observe it in action. Impressive. He is cute, too. I betcha everybody wanted to pinch his cheeks when he was a little guy! Lol!

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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

by umbertoecho in

hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

OrphanCrow

Here is a recent thread that has links to the Charter documents:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/335940001/watchtower-charter-danger-gb

I would like to see the Commission sink their teeth into the "annointed status" and then, who the actual members of the Watchtower Society are. These jokers get away with the claim that "we are just Jehovah's Witnesses" when some have that elite membership into the Society itself. Society membership has an elevated status.

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Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

by umbertoecho in

hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

OrphanCrow

The Watchtower Society Charter might be useful. The charter sets out the lines of authority. the WTS might try to claim scriptual lines of authority, but the legal parameters are bound by corporate law, I would think.

Now that the Royal Commission has moved up the corporate ladder, the NY documents should apply.

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Is Geoffrey W. Jackson a "ringer"? Was he sent coached how to testify? Is this a setup? I think so.

by Wasanelder Once in

if you have heard g. jackson speak you can tell that he is smooth.

he is a good speaker with a commanding voice.

i think the gb knew this was going to happen and prepped him to testify.

OrphanCrow

3rdgen: a believer would argue that Jesus knew what he was singing up for when he accepted the Messiah gig. It was in the job description. I think he got the memo at baptism. Whereas, the others were pretty much blindsided.

Well, the GB shouldn't be blindsided. Doesn't "martyr" come with their job description?

I would think that their annointed status would qualify them for advance warning. After all, they claim to rub shoulders with Jesus. They say they are going to rule with him.

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Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

by StarTrekAngel in

http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

OrphanCrow

girlnextdoor: Would like to see him get the 6 months in jail instead.

In general population. Just let it be known around the prison that he is in there because of protecting child molestors.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia - Moscow Broadcast

by OrphanCrow in

in russia, the jehovah's witnesses are viewed as a extremist, totalitarian cult that speads hate literature.

the russians see the jehovah's witnesses as a threat to the family, a corporate culture in its worst form.

http://1080plus.com/epbmu2iw-p0.video.

OrphanCrow

DataDog: I'm no fan of totalitarian regimes, but Russia is being a tad hypocritical here.

Russia has a history of being a totalitarian state under the Soviets.

They are no longer a Communist country.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia - Moscow Broadcast

by OrphanCrow in

in russia, the jehovah's witnesses are viewed as a extremist, totalitarian cult that speads hate literature.

the russians see the jehovah's witnesses as a threat to the family, a corporate culture in its worst form.

http://1080plus.com/epbmu2iw-p0.video.

OrphanCrow

In Russia, the Jehovah's Witnesses are viewed as a extremist, totalitarian cult that speads hate literature. The Russians see the Jehovah's Witnesses as a threat to the family, a corporate culture in its worst form.

http://1080plus.com/EpbmU2iw-P0.video