Posts by SAHS

today i drove my daughter nancy to shool after the incident last night to ensure that she was ok. she never showed up to her first class, but took a bunch of pills she pilfered from her mother's bathroom a couple of weeks ago.

she was discovered, and i was called.

i took her to the hospital right away.

SAHS

?carefully faded?:

. . . you may want to think about printing out copies of your posts here on JWD . . .

?Corvin?:

Actually, Corvin, one other thing I thought of is: perhaps you might consider printing out some of the replies of people on this thread who provide loving support to you and your daughter, Nancy. You might not want to print out the entire thread, but maybe just some of the replies which would show your daughter that there are indeed many other people who are sensitive to her plight and want to wish her well.

I don?t know if you think it would be a good idea or not, but I was thinking that it could at least demonstrate to your daughter that others do care as well. I?m sure that much of the sincere thoughts of us expressed here would probably do more good than any Hallmark greeting card ever could. (Forgive me if it?s a dumb idea. It?s something that just came to me during my morning coffee.)

Also, if I could, I would just like to let Nancy know that I, as well as all of us here, am routing for her, and wish her the best. Nancy, what might help is this: just picture yourself a year . . . or ten years . . . from now looking back on all of this. As you do, this will all seem almost like some ludicrous dream because by then things will no doubt have worked themselves out for the best, and you will be able to look back with understanding and a degree of serenity. I just know that you both will come through the unfortunate nitwittery of this current situation, and the day will come when you will be able to look back on it with the satisfaction that you have prevailed and risen above it. Just keep thinking of that day, Nancy, and it will come.

?SAHS

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ExJW Dad Sues Watchtower Over Deception Causing Murder

by oneofmany in

dead girl's dad sues jehovah's witnesses.

by bill graveland.

canadian press.

SAHS

she had 38 tranfussions people

Probably too little, too late.

?SAHS

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ExJW Dad Sues Watchtower Over Deception Causing Murder

by oneofmany in

dead girl's dad sues jehovah's witnesses.

by bill graveland.

canadian press.

SAHS

My heart goes out to Lawrence Hughes. He is in an awkward and frustrating situation. At the very least, he can take solace in the fact that he is actively doing something positive in the fight for justice.

Some may argue that there was no guarantee that his daughter Bethany would have survived with or without blood. Who knows. (I am not a doctor or familiar with all the details.) However, it would seem that denial of blood in this case denied Bethany of a proper fighting chance of survival. For those who would support the argument that there was no guarantee one way or the other, consider this:

If any parent deliberately put a bullet in only one of the chambers of a six-shooter revolver, pointed it at their child?s head, and pulled the trigger in a ?game? of Russian roulette, how do you think such a parent would be viewed? (Not too well, I would imagine!) What if the parent simply allowed or encouraged someone else to do this to their child? Would it make a difference? The parent could say, ?Well, it?s only a bullet in one of the chambers. That?s only a one-in-six chance of harm.?

Now, I don?t know what the odds were in Bethany?s case, but let?s say (hypothetically) that there was even a 5/6 chance that she would die regardless of any decision?that would mean that flatly denying blood would have arbitrarily prevented a 1/6 chance that blood might have saved her. I?m sure that anyone would say that flatly denying a 1/6, or even 1/100 for that matter, chance of survival from a standard recommended medical procedure would be illogical. (I?m sure her odds with immediate blood therapy would have been much better than that.)

Of course, considering the very tenuous reasoning of the WT in coldly applying this directive from the ancient Jewish Mosaic Law to medical emergencies involving innocent children, it is clear that the WT demanding that parents deny their minor children of blood in any and all circumstances is not just illogical?it?s totally unacceptable!

?SAHS

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Common experiences of JW's and xjw's

by avishai in

jw
friends

what are common experiences we have, conflicts and resolutions of these situations?

i.e df'ing, brainwashing?

i'm starting a screenplay, and just want the basic's for a skeleton.

SAHS

Constantly worrying deep down that you are not good enough to survive armageddon, and that you very possibly have been condemned because you ended up doing things that you were no doubt driven to due to the effects of the JW dogma.

? For everyone: guilt, fear, compulsion, apprehension

? For most: self-doubt, low self-esteem, anxiety

? For a lot: annoyance, anger, resentment

? For some: giving up

? For a select few: overwhelming grief, depression, and suicidal tendency

? For all who manage to rise above it: success, and my congratulations!

?SAHS

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Where is this promised presence of his?

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

jesus, where are you?

you arrived on this planet nigh on 2000 years ago.

you were baptized at 30, preached for 3 1/2 years, cured the sick, resurrected the dead, opened the way for salvation.

SAHS

?truthseeker?:

Your pain is shared by over six million followers, and is rather unfortunate. I agree with everything you wrote except:

. . . your Father, the "Editor of the Watchtower."

I believe ?Father? is really ?WBTS of NY, INC. ? (with emphasis on the ?INC.??incorporated; i.e., book buplishing/selling company). When you think of it, this really does put things into perspective.

?SAHS

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Would you attend your own DF'ing/DA announcement?

by unbeliever in

jw
friends

my friend was summoned to a jc.

she did not go and pretty much told the elders to kiss her ass.

she wants to attend the announcement which is tonight.

SAHS

If it weren?t for having to worry about the emotional impact on my family, I would love to attend my DA announcement, and then pass out some online printouts regarding the UN-NGO scandal, autologous blood disagreement among the GB, list of failed prophecies, material from the Silent Lambs site, etc. after the meeting.

Well, they?re always encouraging people to stay after the meeting to enjoy association, aren?t they?

?SAHS

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What were you expelled for?

by Joker10 in

jw
friends

.

why were you kicked out?

the honest truth.

SAHS

I.....I......I haaaad sssss ........I haaaaad sex...............I messed around with an ostrich in the wrong way
Gumby

You the man! (Bet ya it will put its other end in the sand next time.)

?SAHS

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Did you Suffer for Service?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

didnt you love being dragged door to door as a kid in the wind and snow, sub zero temperature wearing a skirt and you were told to smile and inform the householder you wanted to be there?

(dragged out of bed at the crack of dawn on one of the few days you should have off from school) .

and then there is that wonderful service car.

SAHS

?black ghost?:

i used to be stood at the doors in winter with my flary mary flowery skirt wrapped round my ears

Wouldn?t that have made you colder?

?Atilla?:

We'd go to the mall, play golf, just drive around, take two hour lunches, hell, even see a movie

Well, I hope it wasn?t R-rated. I mean, after all, you were counting time!

?SAHS