For those following along at home, listen to this:
My loudest laugh of ALL will be watching that spinning globe on JW Broadcast.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
For those following along at home, listen to this:
My loudest laugh of ALL will be watching that spinning globe on JW Broadcast.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Again, I was indoctrinated along with all of you. There was a globe in my classroom, too.
You're just telling me the official story we ALL know and can recite and I have no intention of arguing 'doctrine' with any of you.
I'll just drop bread crumbs.
You pick them up or you ignore them.
Red pill or Blue pill, if you will.
( feel free to ignore me. This ain't my thread )
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I never enjoyed being told what to think or believe as a dub.
Like so many, I never researched the WTBTS history until I quit the meetings.
After that I researched for 6-12 hours a day. 1000s of hours and ( gasp )
YouTube videos! I was forced to honestly admit that it wasn't the truth as much pain and loss that would cause me. Being DFd sealed the deal.
Think about the response you might get from a PIMI dub if you blurted out all the failures of Watchtower. Total rejection with a side of shunning!
I'll not tell you what to believe.
That's for you to decide.
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For me, I don't know what was more troubling, awakening to the truth of Watchtower or the Geocentric model
I woke up from the Matrix only to find myself on the Truman Show.
I'm still trying to prove this as wrong. I can't unsee the truth.
I have opened my mind to the existence of a creator again and I enjoy bible verses I never paid attention to or even remember.
Maybe this is what 25 years of being in cult will do to a person.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
I will point you in what I think is the right direction, but you need to be willing to do your own research.
'flight routes on flat earth'
'plane makes emergency landing in alaska'
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Cofty and Morpheus:
Of course, I'm not hateful. I noticed you didn't include a source for your information.
I am my own person and I do not subscribe to some new code, religion or secret society.
This isn't about me... Or you.
I will no longer be replying to insults or bullying.
I don't care what you think of this stance.
Your debate style is not enjoyable.
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waton~
I don't know
like a mobius strip under a glass dome
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
You are only derailing yourself.
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The short version is, an enclosed flat earth/realm/infinite plane proves a creator.
Let's watch this unfold together.
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Whatever your position, are all the jabs and insults really needed?
I don't remember others being treated the way you've treated me on any other topic.
In the near four years I've been on this site I have never seen a thread get this many nasty replies.
I don't know any of you, so of course, I can't take it personally.
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IF I'm correct, imagine the change in humanity that would result.
World Peace or total chaos?
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
So you haven't proven anything, done any experiments or research of your own.
** copy that **
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
In short my 'side' doesn't need to present evidence because the entirety of science is the evidence. I could suggest you learn some basic planetary science but I'm sure watching a YouTube video would be a lot easier for you.
In other words, I'd be better served if I would return to jehovah the indoctrination of 'the entirety of science' and stop asking so many questions?
I already know the official story.
The questions and comments posted here are clearly evidence that other than a cursory scanning of what's been posted here, you are not researching a thing.
At the end of the day, if you are honest with yourself, you will admit that nearly everything you 'believe' or 'know to be true' is something you've just heard.
Have you proved it for yourself or do you trust those in authority first an foremost.
( Insert your JW awakening experience that likely turned your whole world upside down )
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
I have looked seriously at the so-called evidence for flat earth conspiracies and moon-landing conspiracies and many of the other ones.
They are all crap.
I just have too much self-respect to lower myself to debate them. There is no debate to be had. To believe them depends on a level of wilful ignorance that deserves ridicule.
Strong.
Have you done any of your own repeatable experiments?
Will you?
I have. Many times.
I keep doing them.
I've already told you I can prove it to you from the seashore/bay shore/ lake shore in ten minutes on a clear day.
There's literally 1000s of videos that prove this.
I could make my own, but then it would be on YouTube, so.... Not credible.
I will happily meet ANYONE in person and show you.
Open invitation until I announce otherwise.
I might even have a better camera by then.
( Nikon P900 )
Just searching that on google will point you down the rabbit hole...
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I'm actually surprised this topic took so long to appear here.
This is old news!
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
I have looked seriously at the so-called evidence for flat earth conspiracies and moon-landing conspiracies and many of the other ones.
Oh?
I suspect you have not.
They are all crap.
Damn effective debating right there^^
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What's the 'firmament'?
Who was admiral Byrd? ( have you heard his televised interview? )
What was Operation High Jump?
When was NASA formed?
Why is there an international treaty, effectively closing Antarctica?
Why are there no 'real', non-CGI pictures of the earth or satellites from space?
Why does high altitude balloon footage reveal a flat horizon at eye level when a fish eye lens isn't used? ( at 120,000 feet )
I await your well researched answers.
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
Flat earth nonsense is not worthy of any response other than ridicule.
How would you go about proving the curve?
What evidence would you present?
Do you rely solely on NASA photos?
Have YOU done any experiments of your own?
Can you repeat the findings?
my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.
what are people's thoughts on this?.
these are 'real' NASA photos:
Walk me through it!
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When you are on the moon the earth looks small, when you are behind the moon and farther away, it's bigger...
Seriously?
Come forward. Tell us how this can be.
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And again, no stars?
( our cameras suck )
"you've been living in a dream world, Neo"
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these are 'real' NASA photos, too