The point at which one becomes an Apostate is when the Elders decide it is so. From the org's point of view.
^^^ This. Just this.
at what point does a jehovah’s witness cease to be a jehovah’s witness?
what if a witness doesn't believe some of the official teachings of the governing body but remains silent on these subjects to avoid being disfellowshipped?
is he or she an apostate to the faith?
The point at which one becomes an Apostate is when the Elders decide it is so. From the org's point of view.
^^^ This. Just this.
a silly question since i'm an atheist but one i thought of as a kid jw.
why weren't human's created to be obviously different from animals?
among believers there is some sort of universal hierarchy.
But it's kinda understandable for religious people to think like that, even if we're not 'obviously different'.
Lots of people think like that, and they're not necessarily religious.
Take our laws on murder. Murder is the unlawful, intentional killing of one human being by another. Animals (non-human species) cannot be murdered even if they are sometimes killed by humans illegally. Murder can only apply to humans.
The minute animal rights activists start to include animals or start to think that humans and animals should be viewed as equals, a whole load of moral and philosophical issues crop up.
humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.
" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.
try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.
Scotland is under 10% of the population of UK. Whereas the UK was more than 10% of the population of the EU - but this is a moot point because the EU survives the UK leaving it. By your own admission Scotland leaving the UK automatically breaks it up.
#1 - Scotland leaving the UK, and the UK leaving the EU are two completely different things.
#2 - five million Scots should not be allowed to break up the UK - the whole of the UK electorate should vote on it.
humza yousaf, scotland's first minister, said: "scotland, i'm afraid, is suffering because we are not independent.
" https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-66012834.
try telling that to scotland's tourists and many island communities: the ferry services are dying month by month, and the two new overdue & over-budget ferries justify a serious legal/criminal enquiry.. any bunch of incompetents who can't provide a small country with a ferry service and a legally binding contract to build 2 new boats - having controlled scotland since 2007 - has no credibility in claiming they could run a country!.
LoveUni: that's an interesting viewpoint, though don't you think it's the equivalent of saying, 'We don't need another general election because we voted for the Tories in 2010'?? - no, because general elections happen every 5 years, whereas once-in-a-generation referendums don't. C'mon, it's not difficult to distinguish between the two.
Incidentally. Scottish independence is absolutely not anti-English - this may be correct, but you seem to be using it to cover over anti-English bigotry, which does exist, and seems to be particularly popular with some SNP supporters.
And neither you nor Slim have properly engaged with the point I made earlier: five million Scots must not be allowed to break up the UK. If the fate of the UK is going to be decided, then the whole of the UK electorate must vote on it.
... is absolutely ridiculous.. last year, 2022, russian and belorussian tennis players were banned from wimbledon.
let that just sink in.
if you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a russian or belorussian citizen, the all england club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.. let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further.
I can't see anyone beating Djokovic in the Men's.
But, a part of me kinda wants a female Russian or Belorussian player to win the Ladies' Singles Final.
It would be hilarious watching the British media and Wimbledon trying to deal with that, lol.
... is absolutely ridiculous.. last year, 2022, russian and belorussian tennis players were banned from wimbledon.
let that just sink in.
if you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a russian or belorussian citizen, the all england club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.. let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further.
Damn, Slim, you're sarcasm is so sharp that it can cut people without them knowing it, lol.
... is absolutely ridiculous.. last year, 2022, russian and belorussian tennis players were banned from wimbledon.
let that just sink in.
if you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a russian or belorussian citizen, the all england club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.. let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further.
Actually I was vaguely ashamed - yeah, I was too. It made me ashamed to be English.
On the one hand they demonise Putin as this evil dictator, yet penalize ordinary Russians for what he supposedly is solely responsible for - exactly. Under normal circumstances, if a Russian-born candidate was refused a job because that candidate was Russian, there would be a clear case of unfair discrimination.
And let's not forget the Belorussian players, too.
Sabalenka is Belorussian, and she was penalised because Belorussian dictator Alexander Lukashenko supports Putin. It's madness, utter madness.
the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.
there are a lot of brits on this board.
what are your thoughts on brexit?
why FFS, just because you are xenophobic ? - that is a ridiculous question. Do you honestly think all supporters of ECHR are xenophiles and all opposed to ECHR are xenophobes?
It is there to defend the Human Rights of people, based upon the Human Rights Charter we helped to write ! - but a universal set of human rights might not actually exist.
If you believe in universal human rights, please show evidence which supports their existence.
... is absolutely ridiculous.. last year, 2022, russian and belorussian tennis players were banned from wimbledon.
let that just sink in.
if you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a russian or belorussian citizen, the all england club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.. let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further.
... is absolutely ridiculous.
Last year, 2022, Russian and Belorussian tennis players were banned from Wimbledon. Let that just sink in. If you were a pro tennis player, and happened to be a Russian or Belorussian citizen, the All England Club decided that you could not compete at their annual grass tournament.
Let's explore that particular brand of discrimination and lunacy further. In 1982, Argentina invaded the British Oversees Territory of The Falklands. But Argentinian footballer Diego Maradona still played in the FIFA World Cup that year. Just imagine if he and the entire Argentina squad had been banned, lol. It would have been ridiculous. Maradona wasn't a politician. It was his job to kick a leather ball into a goal, and he was a fantastically gifted player, the GOAT in my opinion.
There is a tennis body (sorry, don't know its name) which is above the All England Club, and they have decided that Wimbledon must not ban outright Russian and Belorussian tennis players this year. So, a kind of compromise has been reached - Russian/Belorussian players are allowed to compete but they must do so under neutral conditions. So, Russian player Mirra Andreeva is in Wimbledon this year, but the word 'Russia' must not be after her name in brackets.
The 1936 Berlin Olympics were heavily politicised by Hitler to promote the belief of white supremacy. That hilariously blew up in his face when African-American sprinter Jesse Owens annihilated the white sprinters (and sprinters of other colours) to win multiple golds. The All England Club seemingly has learned nothing from this. Keep politics out of sport, ffs ...
the "independent scotland" thread got me thinking on this.
there are a lot of brits on this board.
what are your thoughts on brexit?
What I want to know is, where's the benefit? - any benefits are not obvious.
There could and should be benefits, though - the UK economy is huge, and we have lots of willing trading partners - the EU, Australia, Singapore, South Korea, the US, Canada, etc.
The fact that Brexit is going poorly is down mainly to the incompetence of UK government ministers, but the sheer bloody-mindedness of EU ministers to make Britain pay for daring to leave must also be acknowledged.
Brexit was supposed to be about regaining control, i.e. Britain should be politically independent and should govern itself. Sadly, this hasn't been properly realised because we're still a member of the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR). This means foreign judges can still overrule legal decisions made by British ones. This, I think, is bad. We should leave ECRH.