i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
DDog,
I must say he's a different type of Jw apologist. If you dont like the questions that are troubling, just say its faulty.
Its like that study, when asking to many tough questions, they always want to put the hard subjects on the shelf, problem is the shelf is leaning over so far that any more tough questions added, will bring it down.
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
DDog,
It's amazing the hoops that have to be jump through. Did you notice that what came down from heaven was never addressed, and now what goes back to heaven is now un-answerable as well.
What to do with Christ?
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
Yet, he speaks with "an archangel’s voice." Note, too, that he has the power to raise the dead.
Mondo1 says:
It doesn't say that is his voice.
Oh boy!
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
DDog,
We all know as well as Mondo1, what the official position is of Mondo1 and the Watchtower regarding Jesus and Michael. Its interesting that the logistics of Michael and Christ are never addressed by Mondo1 or the Watchtower.
So Im not surprised that Mondo1 has nothing to say on this issue, which is fine. But to continue on as though its a small matter is really an act of ingnorance by both parties.
of course, as it's the murdering, war-crime-committing, un-mandate-ignoring, nuclear-non-proliferation-flouting israeli friends of america, they probably won't see it as an issue at all.. funny that ... they were dead keen on going to war over just the hint of this very thing but probably won't even condemn it.. it's about time that sanctions were imposed on israel.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6075408.stm.
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We all will throw stones at oposing parties for this and that, keep in mind that where you by food, clothes, autos and anything else, eventually will support that companys political agenda.
Example: Witnesses that love Wal-Mart are supporting the Republican party. Starbucks coffee drinkers support the Democrats.
Me personally: I'm a Union member, but lean towards/vote for the Republican agenda. And refuse to shop at Wal-mart because they treat there workers like sub-humans. But my union dues support the Democrats agenda that fights for workers at the Wal-marts.
Whataya gonna do?
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
Well, well, well, It seems we have a sorta of dual natured Christ. Firstly Michael is a spirit being with no knoweldge of a mans struggle with sin.
Secondly What happened to Michael while he was waiting to be ressurected after Christs' death?
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
Yes, but a resurrected man.
Wait a minute! Who's body does he have. One that had similar holes, like the Forever book tells us?
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
ellderwho,Will you stop acting so immature please?
LOL, why do you avoid questions that I ask? This isnt the first time you've created wiggle room in your defense and you know it. You have not shown by any means what exactly came down from heaven and took residence in the womb of Mary. My feeling is you cannot say what came down, lest you accept a dual nature. Dont forget the Society teaches Jesus is Dead and gone. Your sounding like you did when I asked your where did Christ get his glory, and after all the smoke and mirrors, it came down to your imagination being your only best defense.
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
mondo1, are we ducking the issue? Maybe Deputy Dog is on to something.
i have been having an argument in this thread, which originally was about the trinity (oh no, not again.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/121719/1.ashx.
...with mondo1, about what the text in revelation 1.17 means.
i don`t want this thread to turn into another trinity-thread, let`s just keep it to the phrase "the first and the last", and revelation, and jesus` status in this text.
His person. His consciousness. His life.
So by this, how could he not have a dual nature? His person is a god, he is conscious as a god, he is a god, by your terms. And this you'll agree was in Marys womb?
