Posts by ellderwho

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Who else is living in a "Sauna"

by JH in

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it's hot 85f and very humid 95% right now.....ewwww so uncomfortable.. i don't recall seeing such a humid summer.......it must be the end.....

ellderwho

Driving home today, my truck thermometer said 100 and its friggin humid as hell.

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Did you stop believing Armageddon is coming?

by plmkrzy in

how many just stopped believing in the jw predictions/description of what armageddon is all about?

ive met exjws that stopped believing in everything they were taught and ive met some that stopped believing in everything except armageddon.

ive heard comments like: boy wont they be surprised when the day comes and they find out they arent the only ones surviving.

For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

Third witless, reminds me of my elder stepdad until he looked up the quoted Grayson work from the Insight vol. on chronolgy. After that he never mentioned anything else about six-oooooh-seven.......I wonder why?

EW

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

elderwho
Right, I cannot do anything about the twenty year gap and neither can you.

I dont have a twenty year gap. If so, show me where.

Besides I do not wish to remove the gap for I love the gap - missing 20 years. That gap builds up my faith in our accurate Bible chronology because it comes just twenty years short of the biblically corrected date of 607 BCE .

So something thats obviously missing builds your faith?

This means that one can utilize current Neo-Babylonian chronology, factor in the seventy years into the schema and with such fine tuning.

Fine tuning? What about the gap? Thats what you call fine tuning?

Eureka!!! The date for the Fall of Jerusaelm is now proved to be 607 and not the inadequate 587 and other pretenders

Proved to be 607? Lets circle back around to your original statement, remember? You said "I cant do anything about it" (the gap) So where and how does the phrase "eureka" fit this idea?

So things like missing years, equals out to "fine tuning" and a "proven" date. Can you finally see how your arguement sounds?

This is exactly why I pressure you and other Witness apologists to look at your own literature. Its really all you have and all you need to see that the dates given dont add up. What more needs to be said. Look at the information given to you.

The Watchtowers' printed pages are its greatest asset to its own demise.

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

there is a small gap of twenty years.

Scholar, this says it all, you know, third witness knows, I know, my elder step father knows, but you cant do anything about it.

Third witness states there must be another king. I cant believe that you continue a fight with absolutely no way to reach 539 from 625 with your own literatures' chronology, is not that glaring fact troublesome?

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

I have an endless arsenal of information that cannot be overcome and that is the WT publications that explain the Bible.

Yeah except a kings list that works.

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

That is when the angel of Jehovah asks God, “O Jehovah of armies, how long will you yourself not show mercy to Jerusalem and to the cities of Judah, whom you have denounced these seventy years?”

Stop and think about this statement. Doesn't it seem odd that the angel would ask Jehovah “how long”, when the exact length of time had already been determined, namely 70 years?

This is Third witness' explanation of the 70 years mentioned in Zech. Hey genius, whats that word in red bold letters? According to your reasonings the word should be those 70 years.

Your answer is the 70 years had already happened. C'mon thats right out of the "Paradise restored to mankind book."

You ask one to stop and think, isnt it odd the angel would ask Jehovah...? But totally ignore the premise of the question. Then you continue on and interpet what the angel really meant:

The only possible reason to ask such a rhetorical question is because the 70 years had already ended.

Sad.

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

Whatsa matta Third, cat got your kings list.

See this is the problem with Jws, when truley challenged to put up or shut up the latter is always the case.

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Okay, this is what I am

by ElderBarry in

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friends

i was forced to go to kh (to all of the meetings!

) from just a couple weeks before i turned ten until i turned eighteen.

it was awful and i was never baptized.

ellderwho

If someone else has noticed a different style in writing, then there might be something to someone else posting under her name. Let's wait until she can defend herself

I would agree, however she claimed ownership while stating it was herself:

elderbarry: because I made the mistake of asking for a free book of mormon for my sister.

So with that it excludes a second person.

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For those not sick to death of talking about this...607 BCE

by Swamboozled in

just got this link sent to me by my sister in law and i just keeping staring at it trying to decide where to start.

i know that arguing with a jw is like throwing miracle wheat in the wind...but i want a comeback!!!

http://www.2001translation.com/587_or_607.htm

ellderwho

See how the "third witness" evades the most simplistic way to answer the question of kings rule. Like Scholar he will never show his work, lest he be shown a liar.

Ask yourself, why did the Towers tell Carl Jonnson to keep his work quiet?

Thanks Al, once again beating the fool at his own game.

EW