See you soon, I too got a bit riled tonight. I read the threads most recent first & started defending you, then I got upset about your comments on Lawrence's thread. Then I tried to see it from your perspective.
The answer is always to come back & talk. You're outnumbered & brave man. Please read ISOCF chapter 9 (free online) and tell me which parts you agree/disagree with.
http://www.commentarypress.com/eng-search-ch9-05.html