I respect your desire to be humble...
...but doggone it, take a compliment!
JW urban legend? Has anyone heard of a JW clone group called "The Princes"
by Check_Your_Premises 18 Replies latest jw experiences
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Voyager
MIRROR IMAGES!
The following quotes were so
much (alike), that I had to use
an identifying letter at the end
of each quote, so that I could
tell the difference, from which
(cult) the quotes came from.
1. Those who wanted to be aboard the heavenly
("space ship") would need to devote more time to
disciplined training. Learning to serve was the
("path") to ridding oneself of the ways of this world
and one's earthly body. (O).
2. Guidance also is needed by man's ( "spaceships").
In many of these vehicles, this need is met by a
guidance system consisting of a computer, observation
transducers, an inertial navigator and steering actuators.
In fact, these very things may be used to illustrate
mankind's need for divine guidance. (E).
3. The ( "spaceship's "brain") is the computer. Into it a
programmer feeds a mathematical trajectory, or
reference ("path"). (E).
4. The Heavenly Kingdom to tell of was not simply
spiritual, but literal. The method of transportation to
this Kingdom was a ("spacecraft"). (O).
5. This connects the starting position with the destination.
The reference ("path") may also take into account obstacles
and forbidden regions to be avoided. (E).
6. Those who wanted to be aboard the heavenly
("space ship") would need to devote more time to
disciplined training. Learning to serve was the
("path") to ridding oneself of the ways of this
world and one's earthly body. (O).
7. For example, one way that position is determined
is by a star tracker that makes use of stars and planets
to fix the ("ship's position") in space. (E).
8. After 1,260 days of bearing witness to the truth,
their enemies would kill them. This event would be
followed by their ascension to heaven in a cloud.
The cloud, he believed, was a ("spacecraft"). (O).
9. Then the computer uses this information to estimate
the ("spaceship's") present position and velocity, compares
this with the reference ("path") originally programmed into
it to reach its destination, and determines the corrections
necessary to put itself back on this course. (E).
10. . After launching, the ("spaceship") strays from its
course frequently and is corrected many times. (E).
11. Despite the fact that it often strays off course, the
("ship") finally reaches its destination because it is always
correcting itself while progressing toward its target. (E).
12. It might be said that, when he accepts God's way, in
his mind the Christian programs a ("reference path") `that
has baptism as its starting point and eternal life as its final
destination. (E).
13.The Christian must constantly refer to this Biblical
("pathway") to check whether he is keeping "on course"
or not. (E).
14. Just as the ("spacecraft") computer has
programmed into it the avoidance of obstacles and
forbidden regions, so Christians must have in mind
dangers to be shunned. (E).
15. As the ("spaceship's") observation transducers
take sightings on stars and planets to tell where the
craft is, so Christians must look to inspired,
unchanging texts in the Bible to see whether they
are "on course." (E).
16. To have bias against a race or prejudice
against a nationality, to show favoritism to some
because they are rich, or to look down on others
because they are poor—such things must be
guarded against, just as a ("spaceship") computer
has to make corrections for the distortions sometimes
present in the signals it receives from the observation
transducers. (E).
17. Sometimes Christians are confronted with issues
not covered by specific scriptures. This might be
compared with the circumstances of the ("spaceship")
when the observational transducers have no star
sighting to offer. (E).
18. " Indeed, the religious leaders studied the Scriptures,
which revealed the ("pathway") to eternal life, but they
did not follow them. (E).
19. True Christians strive to follow that ("pathway")
because they do love God. (E).
20. Not only do they study God's Word, learn of the
("pathway") to life, compare their conduct with that
course outlined in the Bible and see what corrections
they need to make. (E).
21. Compare this with our ("spaceship") illustration.
The computer not only becomes aware of the
corrections needed, but also sets the steering
actuators into motion to make them. (E).
22. Remember that after the ("spaceship") is
launched it frequently strays from its course.
Through its guidance system, however, the
craft constantly is correcting itself. (E).
23. Following a righteous ("pathway") will be
difficult at times. But do not become discouraged.
(E).
24. At times, some feel beyond the reach of God's
mercy. Like the ("spaceship"), they stray off course
so often. (E).
25. The Christian must constantly refer to this
Biblical ("pathway") to check whether he is keeping
`on course' or not." (E).
26. He left his body behind, transported to Earth
in a ("space-ship"), and incarnated (moved into)
a human body, that of Jesus Christ. (O).
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QUOTES WITH THE LETTER (O) LISTED
AT THE END CAME FROM HEAVENS GATE.
QUOTES WITH THE LETTER (E) LISTED
AT THE END CAME FROM THE WATCH-
TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY.
Watchtower (Spaceship) references:
Good News To Make You Happy/
Chapter/8/page-66/
Good News To Make You Happy/
Chapter/21/page-187/
Awake/1971/Nov/22nd/page-6/
Awake/1989/Aug/8th/page-6/
Awake/1990/Nov/8th/page-5/
Awake/1990/April/8th/page-6/
Awake/1984/March/22nd/page-18/
Awake/1984/Feb/22nd/page-20/
Awake/1983/Aug/8th/page-28/
Awake/1983/June/22nd/page-8/
Awake/1981/June/22nd/page-24/
Awake/1979/April/8th/page-21/
Awake/1979/Feb/8th/page-18/
Awake/1971/Jan/8th/page-5/
Awake/1973/Oct/8th/page-16/
Awake/1973/May/22nd/page-15/
Awake/1971/Jan/8th/page-9/
Awake/1970/Aug/8th/page-30/
Awake/1970/Feb/8th/page-7/
Awake/1974/Aug/22nd/pages 15-16/
Awake/1976/Sept/22nd/page-16/
Awake/1983/Aug/8th/page-4/
Watchtower/1976/April/15th/page-232/
Watchtower/1963/Sept/15th/page-556/
Watchtower/1974/May/1st/page-273/
Watchtower/1976/Nov/15th/page-681/
Watchtower/1971/Sept/15th/page-555/
Watchtower/1971/June/1st/page-350/
Watchtower/1976/June/15th/page-360/
Watchtower/1975/April/15th/page-233/
Preservation/Section 2/page-8/
Mankind's Search For God/Chapter/6/
page-151/
Life How Did (It Get Here By Evolution
Or By Creation/Chapter 9/page-124/Reasoning From The Scriptures/page-84/
http://www.unarius.org/center.html
Life Does Have A Purpose/Chapter 7/page-77/
Your Youth Getting The Best Out Of It/Chapter 2/page-12/
HEAVEN'S GATE
Investigators believe the 21 women and 18 men
drank a lethal mixture of phenobarbital and vodka
and then settled back to die at the cult's palatial
home near San Diego.
Alcohol and San Diego played a role in the death
of Joseph Rutherford the 2nd President of the
Watchtower Bible And Tract Society!
HERE IS ANOTHER GROUP CLAIMING
"NEW WORLD TEACHING"
Center For The New World Teaching
http://www.unarius.org/center.html -
AK - Jeff
I remember my early years in the 'truth' - circa late 1960's - when I used to ask that question.
If the 'truth' is discernable by the teachings - and that is what the Wt says - what if we ever came across a group that taught precisely what we did and lived the same way? Preaching and all! Would Jehovah bless them the same as us? and give them 'life' too?
The answers were always a little varied - but the answer was always the same - JW and only JW's will survive.
I don't recall this example being used to shoot my theorum down - I'm surprized it wasn't !
Jeff
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Panda
The Princes ? Aren't those Michael Jackson's kids?
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tigoyo1
Just for your information, "The Prince" was the surname of the second leader of "La Mission de l'Esprit-Saint", Gustave Robitaille (d. 1965), sucessor of His Majesty the Master Eugène Richer dit Laflèche. The thing that happened is what some would call a "cognitive dissonance". The Mission servants (equivalent of the elders in a JW Cong.) announced the End of the World (called the Warning) around 1975 too. But the thing is that it never happend (DUH!) and the group falled apart and many offshots grew up from that incident, there's 2 of them remaining nowadays. The "church" that they closed is still there on Everett near Papineau in Montreal but it's almost vacant (1 servant left and maybe a dozen of "consecrated" coming for the weekly meetings. And indeed a good part of the flock of the Mission went to the JW as there is a great similarity in many aspect: worship (3 meetings of 2 hours each week) ,classic music (piano, violin,etc.) , hierarchy (God, The Master (Eugène Richer dit Laflèche) and the Servants (Elders), hate toward the World (avoidance of social activities, pagan fests, home schooling) , a similar 6000 year chronology, importance of the religious litterature over the Bible, modesty (no makeup, no jewels, no hair tint), family (no superior studies, getting married young and no contraception allowed) and alot of similarity in the slang of the two religions (Armagueddon, system of things, a unique definition of the holy spirit)
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tigoyo1
CO's Eugène Pothier and Richer Pothier are from La Mission de l'Esprit Saint
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perfect1
JW CLONE GROUP caught me eyes.
Think how much faster d2d would be all clones.
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tigoyo1
Nop I wasn't even born lol