Myths are they Lies or Metaphors???

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  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I've been reading about Joesph Cambell. Every where I research I hear his name as the greatest expert on Myths in this 20th century so hear is a partial clip & link about his book "Thou Art That"

    Click on link to read more:

    http://www.spiritsite.com/writing/joscam/part1.shtml

    MOYERS: Why myths? Why should we care about myths? What do they have to do with my life?

    CAMPBELL: My first response would be, "Go on, live your life, it's a good life--you don't need mythology." I don't believe in being interested in a subject just because it's said to be important. I believe in being caught by it somehow or other. But you may find that, with a proper introduction, mythology will catch you. And so, what can it do for you if it does catch you?

    One of our problems today is that we are not well acquainted with the literature of the spirit. We're interested in the news of the day and the problems of the hour. It used to be that the university campus was a kind of hermetically sealed-off area where the news of the day did not impinge upon your attention to the inner life and to the magnificent human heritage we have in our A great tradition--Plato, Confucius, the Buddha, Goethe, and others who speak of the eternal values that have to do with the centering of our lives. When you get to be older, and the concerns of the day have all been attended to, and you turn to the inner life--well, if you don't know where it is or what it is, you'll be sorry.

    Greek and Latin and biblical literature used to be part of everyone's education. Now, when these were dropped, a whole tradition of Occidental mythological information was lost. It used to be that these stories were in the minds of people. When the story is in your mind, then you see its relevance to something happening in your own life. It gives you perspective on what's happening to you. With the loss of that, we've really lost something because we don't have a comparable literature to take its place. These bits of information from ancient times, which have to do with the themes that have supported human life, built civilizations, and informed religions over the millennia, have to do with deep inner problems, inner mysteries, inner thresholds of passage, and if you don't know what the guide-signs are along the way, you have to work it out yourself. But once this subject catches you, there is such a feeling, from one or another of these traditions, of information of a deep, rich, life-vivifying sort that you don't want to give it up.

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    Joseph Campbell , Thou Art That, Part 1

    Let me begin by explaining the history of my impulse to place metaphor at the center of our exploration of Western spirituality.

    When the first volume of my Historical Atlas of World Mythology, The Way of the Animal Powers came out, the publishers sent me on a publicity tour. This is the worst kind of all possible tours because you move unwillingly to those disc jockeys and newspaper people, themselves unwilling to read the book they are supposed to talk to you about, in order to give it public visibility.

    The first question I would be asked was always, "What is a myth?" That is a fine beginning for an intelligent conversation. In one city, however, I walked into a broadcasting station for a live half-hour program where the interviewer was a young, smart-looking man who immediately warned me, "I'm tough, I put it right to you. I've studied law."

    The red light went on and he began argumentatively, "The word ?myth,? means ?a lie.? Myth is a lie."

    So I replied with my definition of myth. "No, myth is not a lie. A whole mythology is an organization of symbolic images and narratives, metaphorical of the possibilities of human experience and the fulfillment of a given culture at a given time."

    "It?s a lie," he countered.

    "It?s a metaphor."

    "It?s a lie."

    This went on for about twenty minutes. Around four or five minutes before the end of the program, I realized that this interviewer did not really know what a metaphor was. I decided to treat him as he was treating me.

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  • joannadandy
    joannadandy

    Very interesting...I might have to check this book out. I've been looking for a more meaty read lately.

    Thanks for posting it.

  • StinkyPantz
    StinkyPantz

    I'm taking a Mythology course this year and my teacher loves him some Joseph Campbell .

    Mythology isn't a lie absolutely. Many myths are filled with historical truths. Look at the epic of Gilgamesh, or the Iliad. Both myth involve real people and events w/some supernatural aspects thrown in.

  • Narkissos
    Narkissos

    Frankie.

    I think that sums up many of our recurrent misunderstandings about the Bible.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    Amen to Didier's comments.
    Works for me.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    I figured many would like this little clip. I think J. Campbell is an enlighten person if you ask me.

  • zen nudist
    zen nudist

    I have found that experiences are facts but beliefs about them rarely can be validated...so what does that mean?

    it means that I experience a world and many things going on...but my view of what is real and what is happening is

    mostly fiction... everything I have read and learned points me to one conclusion...

    namely that everything I know is something my own organism has generated for my own contemplation, a dream... or metaphor?

    is what I dream representing reality as it exists? how can I tell? everything I use to judge is just more metaphors...I interact with these metaphors because they are the only world I know, but not the only world I can conceive and it is possible the "real" world may not be like this world at all.

    I do find, though, that what I believe alters what I experience and how I feel about it... I find beilefs do have a great deal of power.

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    I believe that the Bible contains no out-right lies, but it is certainly full of metaphores in order to illustrate ideas to simple folk.

  • diamondblue1974
    diamondblue1974

    I'm taking a Mythology course this year and my teacher loves him some Joseph Campbell

    Is there a difference or distinction between myths and legends...this was explained to me once but i cannot remember what the distinction was if at all...can my new agreeable best friend help I wonder?

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