Does God play dice?

by truthseeker 8 Replies latest jw friends

  • truthseeker

    How does Jehovah decide who to save and who not to save?

    What does it take?

    The GB informs you that, "We have Jehovah's protection on us as a group."

    But when whole JW families are murdered by their parents, children in the organization are sexually molested and sisters get caught in crossfire while leaving a Kingdom Hall, the message is this...

    "Jehovah protects his people spiritually as a group."

    When 9/11 happened, 11 brothers and sisters lost their lives, an account was given at a circuit assembly about a husband who decided to go to work late in order to study the daystext with his wife. As a result of this, he missed the 9/11 attack..

    Moral - always do your daystext.

    Yet we often hear the Society quote the scripture where Jesus says, "Where there are 2 or 3 in my midst, there I am."

    Where was Jesus when all of these tragedies happen? If he is head of the congregation, why do we not feel his leadership?

    Recently, a few brothers and sisters lost their life in the tsuami disaster - while vacationing. Others were attending meetings and field service and didn't lose their lives.

    Don't you find it odd, that if the "angels are helping us," some of those who died in the tsunami could very well have been ones who the angels thought were "sighing and crying over the destable things" on the earth.

    Meanwhile, thousands of other witnesses get disfellowshipped for speaking out against corrupt doctrine and flawed blood policy.

    Where is Jehovah's hand in all of this?

    What really is the priority?

    I was led to believe that, "All those who call on the name of Jehovah would be saved." Obviously, I was wrong.

    "Never will I allow the righteous one to totter." says Jehovah.

    In other accounts Jehovah hears the cry of the orphans and widows.

    Yet what do we see today? Rampant neglect of the elderly and a generations of youth leaving the "ark" because there is no real interest in them by the Society, only perceptions of slavery in any category of full time service.

    In the 2004 Yearbook, an experience was given of a sister in England who was out on service with her two sons. Her sons did not have their own bookbags, as money was a problem, so the family prayed about this before leaving for service. When they visited the last house that morning, they met a woman who initially opposed their presence and of children going door to door. After the boys explained their beliefs, the woman asked the boys to wait a moment, went inside and came out with a brand new book bag, ideal for the ministry.

    You can read the full account on page 44 of the 2004 Yearbook.

    So my question again, how does God decide who is worth helping and who isn't?

    Is it better to give two school age boys from England their own bookbag - or save the innocence of a child who is being abused by one of his so-called "spirit-apointed" elders?

    How would you answer?

  • stillajwexelder

    Actually there is an excellent book avaliable written by a reputable scientist entitled "Does God Play Dice?"

  • truthseeker


    Have you read this book? What's it about?

  • FMZ

    I feel there is no actual "decision" by God... it all just happens. So simple, yet so complicated...


  • stillajwexelder

    stillajwexelder Have you read this book? What's it about? No not yet - but it is high on my priority list to read once I have caught up on all the other books I have purchased to read

  • eyeslice

    No, but neither do we live a life that has been predestined for us by God.

    Things like the tsunami disaster of this week remind us of the frailty of the human condition and that we need to live each day to the full.


  • Golf

    "I returned to see under the sun that the swift do not have the race, nor the mighty ones the battle, nor do the wise also have the food, nor do the understanding ones also have the riches, nor do even those having knowledge have the favor; because time and unforseen occurrence befalls them all." Eccl. 9:11


  • jst2laws


    I thought we finally had a discussion about Quantum Physics and reality.


  • justhuman

    Yeah He chosen WT to be his mouthpiece

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