WT New Building Proposed in Brooklyn Turned Down

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    New Bethel Building Plans Vetoed

    Marty gives thumbs down to Witnesses plan By Jess Wisloski
    The Brooklyn Papers

    Calling it out of scale with the DUMBO and Vinegar Hill neighborhoods it would straddle, Borough President Marty Markowitz this week disapproved a plan by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society to build a major residential complex on a long-vacant lot at 85 Jay St.

    The plan, which was approved in July by a narrow 18-15 vote of Community Board 2, consists of four towers ? on an immense, vacant plot of land bounded by Jay, Front, York and Bridge streets ? containing 1,000 one-bedroom apartments for the Jehovah?s Witnesses religious order.

    With a maximum height of 220 feet that would descend in steps from 20 to 14 stories, the towers would be home to 1,800 volunteers and members in a facility that would provide for all their meeting, eating and parking needs with a 2,500-seat hall, a 1,600-seat cafeteria and 1,100-space parking garage.

    None of the facilities would be accessible to the public, except for four gated courtyards that would be open during the day.

    Markowitz released his decision five working days before the Watchtower Society?s proposal was brought before a City Planning Commission public hearing as the next step in the city?s land use review process.

    The borough president maintained that, to gain his approval, Watchtower would have to provide significant evidence that it will address the concerns of the community. He suggested scaling down the development by 60 percent, restricting the height of the proposed buildings to 120 feet at the tallest and 70 feet for the rest, and if they are not providing public access to the parking garage, to cut its size in half.
    Markowitz also expressed concern about the lack of retail space on the ground floors, which the Watchtower Society had said would conflict with its religious mission.

    ?These changes would promote responsible development of DUMBO and Vinegar Hill while making substantial efforts to preserve the character of this unique community,? he said in his decision.

    The lot upon which the development is planned, one of the largest undeveloped parcels in the city, has been vacant for 12 years, ever since the Watchtower Society?s original plans for a printing facility in the manufacturing zone were dropped. It is currently used by the group as a parking lot, which is ominously covered on all sides by sheet-metal fencing.

    Residents, many of whom were surprised to hear about the Watchtower Society?s plans when they were released earlier this year, have formed the staunchest opposition to the project. Owners of apartments in a luxury condominium building at 79 Bridge St., whose views would be impeded, have questioned why the Watchtower didn?t instead utilize the empty buildings they have at 117 Adams St., which were abandoned when they moved their printing press upstate earlier this year.
    Watchtower Society spokesman Richard Devine, said that wasn?t possible.

    Another opponent, the DUMBO Neighborhood Association, reiterated their discontent about the plans. Though one-time supporters of the project, they were burned when their provisions that the Watchtower Society revamp the York Street subway station and limit tower size to 12 stories were not adopted into CB2?s recommendation.

    At a City Planning Commission hearing Wednesday, 18 residents testified against the plans.
    ?I think it went pretty well,? said 79 Bridge St. resident Christy Nyberg. ?I felt that there was unanimous representation, with all the council people involved in the district and the borough president?s office.? She believes the testimony gave the commission a better understanding of what was at stake and said she was encouraged by the probing questions asked by the commissioners.

    Despite the large number of residents they would bring to the area, the self-sufficient order would not rely heavily on area merchants, another factor that has drawn complaints from the community.

    With its world headquarters just blocks away, the religious organization, which came to Brooklyn in 1909, is looking to consolidate many of its smaller residential facilities, most of which are in Brooklyn Heights, and which house thousands of volunteers. Watchtower owns 29 properties in Brooklyn Heights and DUMBO including 21 residential buildings ranging from brownstones to apartment buildings.
    The City Planning Commission has 10 days to render a decision. The application then goes to the City Council for hearings and a final decision.

    Source: Brooklyn Papers.Com

    edited to get rid of the pop up - Lady Lee

  • Quotes

    I can just hear this being relayed at the next special assembly day:

    "So the local opposers, who are standing against Jehovah, conspired to prevent Jehohvahs' plan for his people from being executed. No doubt the Catholic Church, and the rest of Babylon the great, were of one mind in their satan-inspired city plan"

    ~Quotes, of the "rolling my eyes" class

  • Gordy

    Just why do they need to build on this land anyway?

    Its been vacant for 12 years because they had to cancel plans to build new printing facilities. Also they have an empty building at Adams St.

    1,000 bedrooms, 2,500 seat hall, 1,600 seat cafeteria, 1,100 parking ??? What where they planning for?

  • candidlynuts

    if they build it they can sell the property for a higher price. they are scaling the brooklyn stuff down so you know they dont NEED these buildings. only other reason is to make mo money.

  • DaCheech

    They will build the the stuff for pennies with voulenteers sweat and then sell for high price when it looks pretty!

  • DaCheech

    They are up to no good, since they have moved the printing to northern NY with these presses

    they say are as long as 3 football fields. Why would they need more apartments here?

    Sounds like Donald Trump has been giving lessons to the WT society

  • seeitallclearlynow

    Randy made efforts to stop this construction too. Good for him!


  • lawrence

    At this point shouldn't the anti-typical 10 plagues of Egypt get unleashed on DUMBO and not affect "God's people." Maybe the burough's subway system will be full of blood for starters and then the 18 residents who opposed the plan will fall on their knees before the "anti-typical gnats and boils" arrive. Who will play Moses? Brother Brown, the lawyer?

  • DaCheech

    Good one!

    the big J made Pharoah's heart obstinate

  • rocketman

    Markowitz also expressed concern about the lack of retail space on the ground floors,

    Perhaps they ought to consider a Wal-Mart on floor G.

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