Jehovah's Christian Witnesses??

by Junction-Guy 27 Replies latest jw friends

  • Junction-Guy

    When I was a kid and on vacation in Florida about 20 years ago, My Dad had mentioned about an "apostate group" in florida and that it was called "jehovah's christian witnesses" supposedly they even had their own kingdom halls, how many others here are aware of this group and do they even exist still?


  • RevMalk

    I heard rumors back in the mid 80's

  • Satanus

    This phrase is used on the 2001 wt cd 467 times, starting in 1951. It's not really relevant though, as i doubt that the wt has legally registered it.


  • dustyb

    actually i believe that there are certain "entities" that the WT owns and they are named "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses". i'm not sure, i'll have to look it up.

  • RunningMan

    Over the years, Jehovah's Witnesses have been accused of not being Christian, because of the unusual understanding they have about the nature of Jesus, and their denial that he was God incarnate. In order to counteract this critisizm and reinforce the conception that they are Christian, mostly to their own members, they began inserting the label "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" in their literature. For a while, it became a very popular euphamism in their own minds.

    Unfortunately, morons that they are, they forgot to actually register the name. Meanwhile, another group did register it. So, the Society had to stop using it.

    A search on "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" will yield a few defunct links to outreach ministries, so I think the new group withered.

    At least, that's how I heard it. Can anyone verify or add to this?

  • Joker10

    They are known as "Jehovah's Christain Witnesses" in some countries, not just as "JWs"

  • rekless

    The use of this phrase was applied to a new order at the time they were setting up new orders and making Bethelites take the oath of poverty. I beleive it was in the late 80's or early ninties.

  • sid_1973

    The name "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses" is also used, for example in the public service announcements that have been produced.

  • Odrade

    This was an urban legend among JWs. That there was this highly organized breakaway apostate group that called itself "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses." There were accompanying stories of people who got confused by the similarity of the name and ended up being sucked in by the apostates. Except when I heard the stories, it was always California.

    Probably another fabrication to scare us into believing the apostates had some special magic words that if you heard even a couple of their magic words you would instantly turn against the "truth." LOL

  • darkuncle29

    I remember seeing a similiarly named group in the Seattle/South King County yellow pages before I moved to Eastern Washington. Since I've been back, I have not looked them up. I believe that they are/were a christian group that specialized in ministering to JWs. I remember talking with an elder about them one time, the impresion I got is that they were not apostates--having not been Jws.

    I just looked at for Seattle, and could not find them. Oh well.

  • Princess

    Yep, I saw them listed in the yellow pages for North Seattle area years back. Definitely a different group from Jehovah's Witnesses.

  • freedom96

    There was definately some sort of group named that. I too heard it was an offshoot of the JW's. How organized, who knows, but I have not heard about them for ages.

  • Haereticus

    This is what Google told me a while ago:

    Jehovah's Christian Witnesses Help Hot-Line
    Grand Rapids, MI 49503
    (616) 452-5294


  • marie67

    I've heard of them in Chicago.

  • Dogpatch

    Duane Magnani of Witness, Inc. (born-again Christians) used this name to register a whole slew of telephone recorded message ministries years ago. I used to have a message that was registered with the phone company as "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses" because it came up first alphabetically in the phone book, causing Witnesses to think it might be actual active Jdubs. I did it too, and for over 10 years it was in the phone book that way! I got tired of Witnesses calling and asking directions to the Kingdom Hall, plus recorded messages have largely been superceded by the internet, so I closed the phone line down. As a business line it was expensive anyway, and yielded not good results. It WAS very helpful back in 1982 or 1983 when I had a plane fly over Dodger Stadium (this was 2 years after I left Bethel, and had already distributed 10,000 free copies of my tract, "What Happened at the World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Spring of 1980" all over the world. That's how my ministry got started.

    Several people called the hotline. The banner on the plane said, "1980 Bethel Shakeup - 310-546-2937" and it had the 1980 message. By the way, the tract is here:

    This was out a year before Ray Franz did his book, and so it was the first published record of an ex-Bethelite documenting what happened during the Franz incident:

    So there's a little history for ya! By the way, several families got out of the Jdubs from that airplane banner. They went to the bathroom and wrote down the number in secrecy. Over the next 1-6 years, some would call me and thank me for helping them get out. It had taken years for some of the seeds to work, or it just took them years to thank me. By the way, the Jdubs were really pissed, and they banned small planes from flying over Dodger Stadium! LOL

    Not bad for a $400 investment.

    I can see it now: Friends, PAY NO ATTENTION to the apostate plane flying overhead!!

    Cracks me up.

    Randy Watters

  • JT

    you ain't right- smile

    love it

  • RR

    When I lived in the Bronx, there was a group called "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses", not sure if this was a breakaway group. It was listed in the Yellow Pages.


  • willyloman

    Some time ago, perhaps in the mid-80's, while traveling in No. Calif., I looked up JW's in the phone book thinking I might attend a meeting there while away on business.

    The only listing was Jehovah's Christian Witnesses, so I called and got a recording. It didn't take long to determine the message was NOT approved by Mother. I remember thinking, That's pretty sneaky. So, yeah, it's a spin-off, and from the above posts it appears they may no longer be active.

  • Ghosthunter


    I live in Grand Rapids, MI and I just called that number. It is definitely an apostate "help line" discounting the messages of the Watchtower over the last hundred years. It was a recorded message that asked you to leave a name and address if you wanted more information.


  • roybatty

    I remember years ago introducing ourselves out in service as "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses." Seemed for a little while a CO and some elders in our area thought it would be vogue to do this and make sure householders knew that we believed in Christ. Like all other things JW, it was dropped for the next door to door gimick.

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